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can we shout out to the fediverse developers, for making the fediverse possible
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Lol there it is!
Oh look, and there it is!
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shout out to the lemmy developers for not making us be stuck on the other site
shout out to mastodon devs for making us have a better life than on Twitter
shout out to the pixelfed devs for allowing a actual photography platform to exist
shout out to the peertube devs for helping us not be stuck on youtube until the end of time
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It would be one thing if he actually tried to understand why what he said was "controversial" and made a real attempt to apologize instead of throwing up his hands and insisting he didn't want to talk about it anymore.
This reminds me of the bigoted people that espouse their shitty opinions and then refuse to discuss it further when they realize what they are saying maybe sucks a lot.
Telling me that ML has trans communities is akin to the racist that says "But I have a friend that's black!"
In my opininion the developer got upset that his shitty opinions were going to cost them donations and tried to half-ass walk it back.
I fear you and I will never see eye to eye on this, and that's ok. I won't judge you for your opinion and I thank you for being level headed during this discussion. But sadly I remain unconvinced that the developer actually learned anything from this experience other than being more careful next time to not say things that suck.
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And now we have come to an impassé. There is no easy way to find out if you are right about Nutomic has changed his mind and only have backed down for convience. I can say once again, that I haven't seen anything else pointing in that direction, but that won't persuade you.
I do understand fear of prosecution. I will never ever tell anyone not to listen to that fear. Sadly that has turned out to be dangerous at times. Safety and feeling secure always comes first. Transphobia as well as many other kinds of hatred exist and sometimes thrive among the very people who should have felt like home. I cannot remove that fear from you, I can only tell you that I haven't seen bigotry on lemmy.ml unless you count that one microblog, and I obviously don't.
It also makes me sad that you, you fear me, but I get a feeling that I cannot change that neither. I am a little allergic to bullshit, but I don't see that from you and that is why I am trying to formulate something instead of just leaving it at that. I don't think you are fair in comparing me to racists and I am sorry that you don't feel safe on lemmy.ml
Since this is the internet and no one has no clue on what is going on on the other side of the screen I will just ask you to consider that people are people, weak, prone to mistakes and opinionated. Sometimes it actually helps to talk instead of judging. I know it fucking sucks and it can be so draining. And a lot of times it is a waste of effort. But I do believe that we as humans are strongest because of our differences if we are able to understand each other despite them. I take it that most people on lemmy.ml are socialists and computer geeks. I mean its mainly an instance about computers and IT politics. I also believe that socialists strive to be open-minded, failing as we sometimes are, because our very ideology is built upon the idea that every human being is a thing to be treasured and that we are all equal. Once again I am not asking you to do anything, but maybe consider your views once in a while and I promise you I will try to do the same.
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thank you
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Dude is a full tilt tankie, that's not being a weirdo it's being a fascist.
With remarks like this one I am always in doubt. Is this written by a 12 year old or is the truth more nefarious?
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shout out to the lemmy developers for not making us be stuck on the other site
shout out to mastodon devs for making us have a better life than on Twitter
shout out to the pixelfed devs for allowing a actual photography platform to exist
shout out to the peertube devs for helping us not be stuck on youtube until the end of time
I'll keep repeating this: When people will stop caring about the "convenience" of mainstream social media and move to the fedi, whe can destroy the entire world economy and build something fair where creators can live of their art and content. Everything is ready, thanks to the hard work of thousands of devs, and people wont lose anything from what they enjoy from social media, they just won't be a product anymore for the techno-fascist tech giants.
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With remarks like this one I am always in doubt. Is this written by a 12 year old or is the truth more nefarious?
Sad ass tankie brigade, can't help yourselves. Thank goodness none of you hold any actual influence or power anywhere outside your parents' basement.
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Who offers free code as FLOSS, so there's that. Life isn't always binary coded.
So do plenty of people that don't also hold abhorrent views or disseminate propaganda.
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shout out to the lemmy developers for not making us be stuck on the other site
shout out to mastodon devs for making us have a better life than on Twitter
shout out to the pixelfed devs for allowing a actual photography platform to exist
shout out to the peertube devs for helping us not be stuck on youtube until the end of time
Yes but how do we make it into the mainstream?
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Yes but how do we make it into the mainstream?
by making that choosing an instance is easy
i think it maybe by a automated quiz which asks you basic stuff and you get the answer
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Sad ass tankie brigade, can't help yourselves. Thank goodness none of you hold any actual influence or power anywhere outside your parents' basement.
It is a little hard not to smile and for that I am sorry. I hope you learn to cope with your anger issues.
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If you're as unhinged as the rest of the FAF losers, sure.
Keep it respectful please.
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Keep it respectful please.
So "losers" is "disrepectful" and "psychotic hatred of leftists, extreme neoliberal" is "respectful"?
Just making sure.
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Yes but how do we make it into the mainstream?
"How do we ruin what we have."
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So "losers" is "disrepectful" and "psychotic hatred of leftists, extreme neoliberal" is "respectful"?
Just making sure.
Well someone reported your comment. If you have issue with something someone else has written, report it. I’m not reading this entire shit show thread. I’m addressing reports until it gets to a volume where I have to lock it.
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Well someone reported your comment. If you have issue with something someone else has written, report it. I’m not reading this entire shit show thread. I’m addressing reports until it gets to a volume where I have to lock it.
I’m not reading this
Got it. That makes much more sense. Thanks.
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"How do we ruin what we have."
Gatekeeping only helps keep the big tech oligarchs strong. If we want to lessen big techs influence we will need to be more welcoming here.
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And now we have come to an impassé. There is no easy way to find out if you are right about Nutomic has changed his mind and only have backed down for convience. I can say once again, that I haven't seen anything else pointing in that direction, but that won't persuade you.
I do understand fear of prosecution. I will never ever tell anyone not to listen to that fear. Sadly that has turned out to be dangerous at times. Safety and feeling secure always comes first. Transphobia as well as many other kinds of hatred exist and sometimes thrive among the very people who should have felt like home. I cannot remove that fear from you, I can only tell you that I haven't seen bigotry on lemmy.ml unless you count that one microblog, and I obviously don't.
It also makes me sad that you, you fear me, but I get a feeling that I cannot change that neither. I am a little allergic to bullshit, but I don't see that from you and that is why I am trying to formulate something instead of just leaving it at that. I don't think you are fair in comparing me to racists and I am sorry that you don't feel safe on lemmy.ml
Since this is the internet and no one has no clue on what is going on on the other side of the screen I will just ask you to consider that people are people, weak, prone to mistakes and opinionated. Sometimes it actually helps to talk instead of judging. I know it fucking sucks and it can be so draining. And a lot of times it is a waste of effort. But I do believe that we as humans are strongest because of our differences if we are able to understand each other despite them. I take it that most people on lemmy.ml are socialists and computer geeks. I mean its mainly an instance about computers and IT politics. I also believe that socialists strive to be open-minded, failing as we sometimes are, because our very ideology is built upon the idea that every human being is a thing to be treasured and that we are all equal. Once again I am not asking you to do anything, but maybe consider your views once in a while and I promise you I will try to do the same.
I wasn't trying to compare you with racists, I could have worded that sentence better. I meant that just having the existence of trans coms on his instance isn't some kind of shield for his comments and lack of apology. There is no clear statement that I have seen from him that he really understood that what he said was harmful. Instead he delivered a cop out response and literally said he didn't want to talk about it anymore. That statement was in no way a recanting of his previous statement, and it is pretty clear to me that he learned nothing and just wanted the controversy that he stirred up to go away.
I find it sad that you would go to such lengths to defend this so I'm sorry but I'll have to block you now. You've made your opinion clear and it's not congruent with the reality of the situation.
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by making that choosing an instance is easy
i think it maybe by a automated quiz which asks you basic stuff and you get the answer
It's not like Mastodon; there aren't superior communities. Outside of hexbear or .ml, there's no meaningful difference between lemmy.social and lemmy.zip you just join one and follow what you want of all the options.
The part the general public isn't ready for is curating their own feed.
There's no AI shoving things at you so you can doomscroll. They want that.
There's also no ads paying for the servers, so we keep is small and enough of us dontate to keep it runnings.
You get a couple million twitter/reddis assholes over here burning server costs up with not donating shit; the nice, quiet, pleasant community we have goes to shit.
Don't borrow trouble.
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Actually I think it predated a good amount of that. Iirc PyLova was started much earlier than most people realize, stemming out of a frustration from wanting to contribute to the project but then Mia's contributions were reportedly taken by the main PieFed dev without seemingly proper acknowledgement. And then yes the PieFed drama caused additional attention to be paid to PyLova than previously.
PyLova hasn't done a whole awful lot yet in some respects, but especially some of the more recent inclusions may be absolute game-changers moving forward, especially the ability to support user shareable blocklists. That should go a long way towards retaining people coming here from Reddit who would otherwise flee this toxic shithole (well, some major parts of the Threadiverse are that way at least - certain highly notable politics communities in particular spring to mind, though after blocking this place can become much more chill! even if noticeably quieter...:-P). And PyLova un-does a lot of the minor annoyances that the main PieFed dev did not feel fit into his vision - e.g. a user can choose to display both upvotes and downvotes side by side, just like in Lemmy.
Meanwhile, PieFed is off chasing better compatibility with Mastodon. Some people want that, so it is a laudable goal, but then PyLova is focusing on improving the existing experience here within the Threadiverse, which also seems laudable to me?
However it got started, it is contributing to improving things, as software forks often do - that ability is part of what makes FLOSS so great!!
Thank for the complete feedback. Pylova has interesting features.
It made me curious and i want to give a try.
Is Pylova interested in Mastodon & Mobilizon support ? I need those two bridge so we can connect to the whole fediverse.
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