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What many people misunderstand about hosting your own content (like this social media instance) is thinking we somehow NEED a big audience or Big Tech involvement.
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This is the nice thing about the fediverse, it's natural to keep it small
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@wjmaggos Of course, but I'm talking about the end goal here. In my opinion, the idea that "we must have critical mass to succeed" is wrong.
I know I reach thousands of people, more than on most social media platforms. But that's not the point. If the Fediverse starts dying out, it doesn't bother me. That's what I'm trying to say here.
so we have different goals. thus different definitions of success.
I'm much less interested in my own reach or perhaps finding personal connections. I'll probably never be happy based on my own stats, but would be very happy with very few followers if when people thought and talked about social media, they meant fedi. imo that would be good for society.
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so we have different goals. thus different definitions of success.
I'm much less interested in my own reach or perhaps finding personal connections. I'll probably never be happy based on my own stats, but would be very happy with very few followers if when people thought and talked about social media, they meant fedi. imo that would be good for society.
@wjmaggos But why? Why is it so important to "win" as a social media platform? I used to think the same way when I moved here from Twitter, but after a few years, I've come to realize it was never about that. The web will always be scattered.
They even interviewed me back in 2022 in Finnish in my CTO role, calling Mastodon "the new rival for Twitter." Now that feels funny. I see this and other publishing platforms just like my old website back in 1998.
Social media has always been all over the place. I just hope people would understand the ethics around big tech platforms. But I know they won't. The world will burn before that happens.
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What many people misunderstand about hosting your own content (like this social media instance) is thinking we somehow NEED a big audience or Big Tech involvement.
I'm perfectly fine if the world faded away and it was just the thousand of us here. It's like the early days of the web when we had small forums, nobody missed Reddit back then. Federation is a big plus, not a requirement.
It's the same with websites or IRC for me. I know people use Discord, but I still stick to IRC even if there are only about a hundred of us left. I know people use AI now and website visitors are dropping, but who cares? I still keep doing it for those who like to read.
I don't need the whole world involved for this to feel worthwhile. It's mine, I own it, and I host it for as long as I breathe. After that, it won't matter to me anymore, but I hope other admins keep things running the way I did.
#SelfHosted #SelfHosting #OpenSource #Fediverse #Mastodon #OpenWeb #SocialWeb
@rolle I posted about the same idea not so long ago.
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What many people misunderstand about hosting your own content (like this social media instance) is thinking we somehow NEED a big audience or Big Tech involvement.
I'm perfectly fine if the world faded away and it was just the thousand of us here. It's like the early days of the web when we had small forums, nobody missed Reddit back then. Federation is a big plus, not a requirement.
It's the same with websites or IRC for me. I know people use Discord, but I still stick to IRC even if there are only about a hundred of us left. I know people use AI now and website visitors are dropping, but who cares? I still keep doing it for those who like to read.
I don't need the whole world involved for this to feel worthwhile. It's mine, I own it, and I host it for as long as I breathe. After that, it won't matter to me anymore, but I hope other admins keep things running the way I did.
#SelfHosted #SelfHosting #OpenSource #Fediverse #Mastodon #OpenWeb #SocialWeb
What a wonderful place @jerry has created.
According to google:
Specifically, statistics indicate the server has around 29,860 registered users. Additionally, about 625 of these members actively support the instance financially through Patreon, with over 450 of those being paid subscribers.So only 2% support infosec.exchange.
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@wjmaggos But why? Why is it so important to "win" as a social media platform? I used to think the same way when I moved here from Twitter, but after a few years, I've come to realize it was never about that. The web will always be scattered.
They even interviewed me back in 2022 in Finnish in my CTO role, calling Mastodon "the new rival for Twitter." Now that feels funny. I see this and other publishing platforms just like my old website back in 1998.
Social media has always been all over the place. I just hope people would understand the ethics around big tech platforms. But I know they won't. The world will burn before that happens.
imo fedi is not a platform but an attention layer for the open web.
the web let everyone speak (make a post available to everyone) but that didn't mean anybody would know it existed. we still require other media systems to tell people the site etc exists. so we had universal (relatively) freedom of speech.
everybody using fedi provides #DemocracyOfReach. we each decide whether the item deserves a boost or not. like we had as cavemen with word of mouth, but faster. no middlemen matters.
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@kris https://thelounge.chat (needs some work to install but it's beautiful)
I use irssiproxy with Beeper: https://www.beeper.com
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@grepe Hmm. I'm a bit of a strange person and found around 7k of my likes here on the Fediverse. If "the audience" gets smaller, so be it. Thankfully, the internet is full of people. What I'm saying is, if it ever shrinks one day, I don't really mind.
@rolle well, that's much easier to say when you have thousands of followers... most of us here (or anywhere) get exactly zero engagement for most of our posts. and i get it, i dropped fb, reddit and other mainstream social media because i think the algorithm has too much power over me, but i also get why most people stay - imho they simply desire validation and connection. those are either hard earned or easily faked...
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@rolle well, that's much easier to say when you have thousands of followers... most of us here (or anywhere) get exactly zero engagement for most of our posts. and i get it, i dropped fb, reddit and other mainstream social media because i think the algorithm has too much power over me, but i also get why most people stay - imho they simply desire validation and connection. those are either hard earned or easily faked...
@grepe I started with 0 too.
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@mathew @rolle let me clarify... i do not care so much about followers as about reaching and connecting with the right people. building a big follower base is a big task and not everyone can do it. finding and joining a community of like-minded people (think lemmy c/community or even just a small group of friends that follow each other on mastodon or share the same server) is comparatively easier and interacting within this group is much more manageable for most people. creating such small groups and being able to find them is, however, only possible if a big group of people share the same platform for doing that. that is why federation is important. having 100 small isolated mastodon servers with one weird person on each of them does not help. having 100 weird people on 100 federated servers following the same hashtag or being included within the same community/group of any kind does.
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