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Potential Fediverse alternative to Ao3/SqWA?
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/53757573
Two months ago, I made this post:
Fanfiction has never had a federated home: should we just potentially take over SquidgeWorld Archive (or fork the code)? - Lemmy.World
I (and a lot of other people, I’d guess) read and write fanfiction. But as far as I know, there’s never really been a federated fanfic platform, nothing that plugs into the fediverse the way Mastodon does for microblogging or PeerTube/Loops does for video. ___ Then I stumbled upon SquidgeWorld Archive [https://squidgeworld.org/] (SQWA), an AO3 alternative that actually runs on the same codebase as AO3 otwarchive [https://github.com/otwcode/otwarchive]. It’s got way fewer users than AO3, which honestly gives it a cozier, more small-town vibe. The devs/maintainers behind it, squidge.org [https://squidge.org/], even run both Mastodon and Bluesky accounts. The catch: people have posted that fics pulling thousands of views on AO3 get little to none on SQWA. Makes sense, it’s just a much smaller pond. ___ So, two half-formed ideas that I wanted to possibly toss out: Suggestion #1: “colonize” SQWA. What if fediverse-native fanfic folks just started actually posting there? Cross-link your fediverse socials, bring your existing following over, treat it like planting a flag. It already exists, the maintainers are clearly fediverse-friendly, it just needs bodies. ___ Suggestion #2: fork it (and ao3) and actually federate it. AO3’s otwarchive code is open source, which is exactly what SQWA is running on. What if someone forked it and built out real federation, ActivityPub support, the whole deal, instead of just being a second standalone AO3 clone? That feels like the “real” long-term fix, but it’s a genuine software undertaking, not a weekend project. ___ I’d love to take a crack at #2 myself but I don’t have the time or the technical bandwidth for something that size right now, so I’m just putting it out there in case it resonates with anyone here. Curious what this community thinks: is #1 realistic, or does fanfiction just need a ground-up federated archive to actually work? ___ Edit: Sorry for any mistakes, I’m currently at work ___ Edit Edit:*** There are also these Ao3 mirror sites and alternatives: Mirror sites: https://archiveofourown.gay/ [https://archiveofourown.gay/] https://archive.transformativeworks.org/ [https://archive.transformativeworks.org/] https://insecure.archiveofourown.org/ [https://insecure.archiveofourown.org/] Redirects: https://archiveofourown.com/ [https://archiveofourown.com/] https://archiveofourown.net/ [https://archiveofourown.net/] https://archiveofourown.site/ [https://archiveofourown.site/] https://ao3.gay/ [https://ao3.gay/] https://ao3.org/ [https://ao3.org/] Other Alternatives: https://sunset.femslash.club/ [https://sunset.femslash.club/] https://www.cfaarchive.org/ [https://www.cfaarchive.org/] https://www.adastrafanfic.com/ [https://www.adastrafanfic.com/] .
(lemmy.world)
In this community, about potentially either "colonizing", or forking Squidgeworld Archive (alternative to the fanfiction site ao3).
Home | SquidgeWorld Archive
SquidgeWorld Archive, a project of Squidge.org based on open-source code from the OTW
(squidgeworld.org)
Apparently, ao3 has recently shut-down for 2-4 weeks:
AO3 Is Down for TWO TO FOUR WEEKS! AHHHHHH!
It's a fandom emergency, Archive of Our Own, also known as AO3, is down and will remain down for two to four weeks. What will fandom do?
Nerdist (nerdist.com)
My question is: Should we consider potentially making a Fediverse alternative to Ao3 / SqWA?
If you head over to the Squidgeworld Archive website, it states that over 2,300+ ao3 users have already migrated over to SqWA from ao3.
(Now it's over 12,000+ in the last 20 hours ALONE.)
Just imagine how many people could potentially be brought into the Fediverse, if there were a working federated alternative version of ao3 / SqWA.
Or if Fediverse users, instead of creating an alternative, instead commited to "colonising" SqWA, instead.
I've been wishing for a federated AO3 for ages
Could maybe start from a fork of WriteFreely or even ibis.wiki. The actual long form reading/writing part probably isn't the hardest problem, the very sophisticated tagging is, right?
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I've been wishing for a federated AO3 for ages
Could maybe start from a fork of WriteFreely or even ibis.wiki. The actual long form reading/writing part probably isn't the hardest problem, the very sophisticated tagging is, right?
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I know that both Ao3 , and SqWA, use the same open source OTW Code software
Oh wow, i didn't know that! Would that make it easier to potentially make like an actual real federated AO3??
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/53757573
Two months ago, I made this post:
Fanfiction has never had a federated home: should we just potentially take over SquidgeWorld Archive (or fork the code)? - Lemmy.World
I (and a lot of other people, I’d guess) read and write fanfiction. But as far as I know, there’s never really been a federated fanfic platform, nothing that plugs into the fediverse the way Mastodon does for microblogging or PeerTube/Loops does for video. ___ Then I stumbled upon SquidgeWorld Archive [https://squidgeworld.org/] (SQWA), an AO3 alternative that actually runs on the same codebase as AO3 otwarchive [https://github.com/otwcode/otwarchive]. It’s got way fewer users than AO3, which honestly gives it a cozier, more small-town vibe. The devs/maintainers behind it, squidge.org [https://squidge.org/], even run both Mastodon and Bluesky accounts. The catch: people have posted that fics pulling thousands of views on AO3 get little to none on SQWA. Makes sense, it’s just a much smaller pond. ___ So, two half-formed ideas that I wanted to possibly toss out: Suggestion #1: “colonize” SQWA. What if fediverse-native fanfic folks just started actually posting there? Cross-link your fediverse socials, bring your existing following over, treat it like planting a flag. It already exists, the maintainers are clearly fediverse-friendly, it just needs bodies. ___ Suggestion #2: fork it (and ao3) and actually federate it. AO3’s otwarchive code is open source, which is exactly what SQWA is running on. What if someone forked it and built out real federation, ActivityPub support, the whole deal, instead of just being a second standalone AO3 clone? That feels like the “real” long-term fix, but it’s a genuine software undertaking, not a weekend project. ___ I’d love to take a crack at #2 myself but I don’t have the time or the technical bandwidth for something that size right now, so I’m just putting it out there in case it resonates with anyone here. Curious what this community thinks: is #1 realistic, or does fanfiction just need a ground-up federated archive to actually work? ___ Edit: Sorry for any mistakes, I’m currently at work ___ Edit Edit:*** There are also these Ao3 mirror sites and alternatives: Mirror sites: https://archiveofourown.gay/ [https://archiveofourown.gay/] https://archive.transformativeworks.org/ [https://archive.transformativeworks.org/] https://insecure.archiveofourown.org/ [https://insecure.archiveofourown.org/] Redirects: https://archiveofourown.com/ [https://archiveofourown.com/] https://archiveofourown.net/ [https://archiveofourown.net/] https://archiveofourown.site/ [https://archiveofourown.site/] https://ao3.gay/ [https://ao3.gay/] https://ao3.org/ [https://ao3.org/] Other Alternatives: https://sunset.femslash.club/ [https://sunset.femslash.club/] https://www.cfaarchive.org/ [https://www.cfaarchive.org/] https://www.adastrafanfic.com/ [https://www.adastrafanfic.com/] .
(lemmy.world)
In this community, about potentially either "colonizing", or forking Squidgeworld Archive (alternative to the fanfiction site ao3).
Home | SquidgeWorld Archive
SquidgeWorld Archive, a project of Squidge.org based on open-source code from the OTW
(squidgeworld.org)
Apparently, ao3 has recently shut-down for 2-4 weeks:
AO3 Is Down for TWO TO FOUR WEEKS! AHHHHHH!
It's a fandom emergency, Archive of Our Own, also known as AO3, is down and will remain down for two to four weeks. What will fandom do?
Nerdist (nerdist.com)
My question is: Should we consider potentially making a Fediverse alternative to Ao3 / SqWA?
If you head over to the Squidgeworld Archive website, it states that over 2,300+ ao3 users have already migrated over to SqWA from ao3.
(Now it's over 12,000+ in the last 20 hours ALONE.)
Just imagine how many people could potentially be brought into the Fediverse, if there were a working federated alternative version of ao3 / SqWA.
Or if Fediverse users, instead of creating an alternative, instead commited to "colonising" SqWA, instead.
The software is almost completely irrelevant. It's all about the story archive. Given Lemmy's observed distaste for edgy content, I don't think a federated AO3-like repo is likely to fly, but I'd love to be proven wrong. It might be preferable to have a straightforward mirror if that can be arranged with AO3.
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/53757573
Two months ago, I made this post:
Fanfiction has never had a federated home: should we just potentially take over SquidgeWorld Archive (or fork the code)? - Lemmy.World
I (and a lot of other people, I’d guess) read and write fanfiction. But as far as I know, there’s never really been a federated fanfic platform, nothing that plugs into the fediverse the way Mastodon does for microblogging or PeerTube/Loops does for video. ___ Then I stumbled upon SquidgeWorld Archive [https://squidgeworld.org/] (SQWA), an AO3 alternative that actually runs on the same codebase as AO3 otwarchive [https://github.com/otwcode/otwarchive]. It’s got way fewer users than AO3, which honestly gives it a cozier, more small-town vibe. The devs/maintainers behind it, squidge.org [https://squidge.org/], even run both Mastodon and Bluesky accounts. The catch: people have posted that fics pulling thousands of views on AO3 get little to none on SQWA. Makes sense, it’s just a much smaller pond. ___ So, two half-formed ideas that I wanted to possibly toss out: Suggestion #1: “colonize” SQWA. What if fediverse-native fanfic folks just started actually posting there? Cross-link your fediverse socials, bring your existing following over, treat it like planting a flag. It already exists, the maintainers are clearly fediverse-friendly, it just needs bodies. ___ Suggestion #2: fork it (and ao3) and actually federate it. AO3’s otwarchive code is open source, which is exactly what SQWA is running on. What if someone forked it and built out real federation, ActivityPub support, the whole deal, instead of just being a second standalone AO3 clone? That feels like the “real” long-term fix, but it’s a genuine software undertaking, not a weekend project. ___ I’d love to take a crack at #2 myself but I don’t have the time or the technical bandwidth for something that size right now, so I’m just putting it out there in case it resonates with anyone here. Curious what this community thinks: is #1 realistic, or does fanfiction just need a ground-up federated archive to actually work? ___ Edit: Sorry for any mistakes, I’m currently at work ___ Edit Edit:*** There are also these Ao3 mirror sites and alternatives: Mirror sites: https://archiveofourown.gay/ [https://archiveofourown.gay/] https://archive.transformativeworks.org/ [https://archive.transformativeworks.org/] https://insecure.archiveofourown.org/ [https://insecure.archiveofourown.org/] Redirects: https://archiveofourown.com/ [https://archiveofourown.com/] https://archiveofourown.net/ [https://archiveofourown.net/] https://archiveofourown.site/ [https://archiveofourown.site/] https://ao3.gay/ [https://ao3.gay/] https://ao3.org/ [https://ao3.org/] Other Alternatives: https://sunset.femslash.club/ [https://sunset.femslash.club/] https://www.cfaarchive.org/ [https://www.cfaarchive.org/] https://www.adastrafanfic.com/ [https://www.adastrafanfic.com/] .
(lemmy.world)
In this community, about potentially either "colonizing", or forking Squidgeworld Archive (alternative to the fanfiction site ao3).
Home | SquidgeWorld Archive
SquidgeWorld Archive, a project of Squidge.org based on open-source code from the OTW
(squidgeworld.org)
Apparently, ao3 has recently shut-down for 2-4 weeks:
AO3 Is Down for TWO TO FOUR WEEKS! AHHHHHH!
It's a fandom emergency, Archive of Our Own, also known as AO3, is down and will remain down for two to four weeks. What will fandom do?
Nerdist (nerdist.com)
My question is: Should we consider potentially making a Fediverse alternative to Ao3 / SqWA?
If you head over to the Squidgeworld Archive website, it states that over 2,300+ ao3 users have already migrated over to SqWA from ao3.
(Now it's over 12,000+ in the last 20 hours ALONE.)
Just imagine how many people could potentially be brought into the Fediverse, if there were a working federated alternative version of ao3 / SqWA.
Or if Fediverse users, instead of creating an alternative, instead commited to "colonising" SqWA, instead.
The real question is who's willing to help develop this software if someone were to start work on it
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/53757573
Two months ago, I made this post:
Fanfiction has never had a federated home: should we just potentially take over SquidgeWorld Archive (or fork the code)? - Lemmy.World
I (and a lot of other people, I’d guess) read and write fanfiction. But as far as I know, there’s never really been a federated fanfic platform, nothing that plugs into the fediverse the way Mastodon does for microblogging or PeerTube/Loops does for video. ___ Then I stumbled upon SquidgeWorld Archive [https://squidgeworld.org/] (SQWA), an AO3 alternative that actually runs on the same codebase as AO3 otwarchive [https://github.com/otwcode/otwarchive]. It’s got way fewer users than AO3, which honestly gives it a cozier, more small-town vibe. The devs/maintainers behind it, squidge.org [https://squidge.org/], even run both Mastodon and Bluesky accounts. The catch: people have posted that fics pulling thousands of views on AO3 get little to none on SQWA. Makes sense, it’s just a much smaller pond. ___ So, two half-formed ideas that I wanted to possibly toss out: Suggestion #1: “colonize” SQWA. What if fediverse-native fanfic folks just started actually posting there? Cross-link your fediverse socials, bring your existing following over, treat it like planting a flag. It already exists, the maintainers are clearly fediverse-friendly, it just needs bodies. ___ Suggestion #2: fork it (and ao3) and actually federate it. AO3’s otwarchive code is open source, which is exactly what SQWA is running on. What if someone forked it and built out real federation, ActivityPub support, the whole deal, instead of just being a second standalone AO3 clone? That feels like the “real” long-term fix, but it’s a genuine software undertaking, not a weekend project. ___ I’d love to take a crack at #2 myself but I don’t have the time or the technical bandwidth for something that size right now, so I’m just putting it out there in case it resonates with anyone here. Curious what this community thinks: is #1 realistic, or does fanfiction just need a ground-up federated archive to actually work? ___ Edit: Sorry for any mistakes, I’m currently at work ___ Edit Edit:*** There are also these Ao3 mirror sites and alternatives: Mirror sites: https://archiveofourown.gay/ [https://archiveofourown.gay/] https://archive.transformativeworks.org/ [https://archive.transformativeworks.org/] https://insecure.archiveofourown.org/ [https://insecure.archiveofourown.org/] Redirects: https://archiveofourown.com/ [https://archiveofourown.com/] https://archiveofourown.net/ [https://archiveofourown.net/] https://archiveofourown.site/ [https://archiveofourown.site/] https://ao3.gay/ [https://ao3.gay/] https://ao3.org/ [https://ao3.org/] Other Alternatives: https://sunset.femslash.club/ [https://sunset.femslash.club/] https://www.cfaarchive.org/ [https://www.cfaarchive.org/] https://www.adastrafanfic.com/ [https://www.adastrafanfic.com/] .
(lemmy.world)
In this community, about potentially either "colonizing", or forking Squidgeworld Archive (alternative to the fanfiction site ao3).
Home | SquidgeWorld Archive
SquidgeWorld Archive, a project of Squidge.org based on open-source code from the OTW
(squidgeworld.org)
Apparently, ao3 has recently shut-down for 2-4 weeks:
AO3 Is Down for TWO TO FOUR WEEKS! AHHHHHH!
It's a fandom emergency, Archive of Our Own, also known as AO3, is down and will remain down for two to four weeks. What will fandom do?
Nerdist (nerdist.com)
My question is: Should we consider potentially making a Fediverse alternative to Ao3 / SqWA?
If you head over to the Squidgeworld Archive website, it states that over 2,300+ ao3 users have already migrated over to SqWA from ao3.
(Now it's over 12,000+ in the last 20 hours ALONE.)
Just imagine how many people could potentially be brought into the Fediverse, if there were a working federated alternative version of ao3 / SqWA.
Or if Fediverse users, instead of creating an alternative, instead commited to "colonising" SqWA, instead.
Same boat, but for a Roblox alternative. I've already forked JohnMH's OpenBlox repo but haven't even wrote code to it yet, and I may consider also forking from the Polytoria 2.0 codebase.
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The real question is who's willing to help develop this software if someone were to start work on it
What I was thinking was maybe perhaps having a fork of either WriteFreely, or Ghost, so that you get the federation, etc.
but also use the same open source OTW Code software, that both Ao3, and SqWA, use, for the benefits/convenience?
And perhaps, instead of using servers/instances, it instead have each and every profile as it's own separate mini website, complete with dashboard, reading history, fics, etc.?
I.e. think something similar to how Tumblr handles profiles, but decentralized.
And each profile would interconnected with each other (unless they defederate).
Basically, each of the profiles would be their own instance.
Or something.
IDK.
Apologies if this was written weirdly, I am currently at work.
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What I was thinking was maybe perhaps having a fork of either WriteFreely, or Ghost, so that you get the federation, etc.
but also use the same open source OTW Code software, that both Ao3, and SqWA, use, for the benefits/convenience?
And perhaps, instead of using servers/instances, it instead have each and every profile as it's own separate mini website, complete with dashboard, reading history, fics, etc.?
I.e. think something similar to how Tumblr handles profiles, but decentralized.
And each profile would interconnected with each other (unless they defederate).
Basically, each of the profiles would be their own instance.
Or something.
IDK.
Apologies if this was written weirdly, I am currently at work.
each of the profiles would be their own instance
So each author would need to host their own infrastructure? I'm not sure I follow
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each of the profiles would be their own instance
So each author would need to host their own infrastructure? I'm not sure I follow
Would something like Ourchive possibly work?
I was browsing various different ao3 alternative sites, and I stumbled upon Ourchive.gay
Which is apparently a decentralized alternative to Ao3.
Plus, they use Mastodon
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/53757573
Two months ago, I made this post:
Fanfiction has never had a federated home: should we just potentially take over SquidgeWorld Archive (or fork the code)? - Lemmy.World
I (and a lot of other people, I’d guess) read and write fanfiction. But as far as I know, there’s never really been a federated fanfic platform, nothing that plugs into the fediverse the way Mastodon does for microblogging or PeerTube/Loops does for video. ___ Then I stumbled upon SquidgeWorld Archive [https://squidgeworld.org/] (SQWA), an AO3 alternative that actually runs on the same codebase as AO3 otwarchive [https://github.com/otwcode/otwarchive]. It’s got way fewer users than AO3, which honestly gives it a cozier, more small-town vibe. The devs/maintainers behind it, squidge.org [https://squidge.org/], even run both Mastodon and Bluesky accounts. The catch: people have posted that fics pulling thousands of views on AO3 get little to none on SQWA. Makes sense, it’s just a much smaller pond. ___ So, two half-formed ideas that I wanted to possibly toss out: Suggestion #1: “colonize” SQWA. What if fediverse-native fanfic folks just started actually posting there? Cross-link your fediverse socials, bring your existing following over, treat it like planting a flag. It already exists, the maintainers are clearly fediverse-friendly, it just needs bodies. ___ Suggestion #2: fork it (and ao3) and actually federate it. AO3’s otwarchive code is open source, which is exactly what SQWA is running on. What if someone forked it and built out real federation, ActivityPub support, the whole deal, instead of just being a second standalone AO3 clone? That feels like the “real” long-term fix, but it’s a genuine software undertaking, not a weekend project. ___ I’d love to take a crack at #2 myself but I don’t have the time or the technical bandwidth for something that size right now, so I’m just putting it out there in case it resonates with anyone here. Curious what this community thinks: is #1 realistic, or does fanfiction just need a ground-up federated archive to actually work? ___ Edit: Sorry for any mistakes, I’m currently at work ___ Edit Edit:*** There are also these Ao3 mirror sites and alternatives: Mirror sites: https://archiveofourown.gay/ [https://archiveofourown.gay/] https://archive.transformativeworks.org/ [https://archive.transformativeworks.org/] https://insecure.archiveofourown.org/ [https://insecure.archiveofourown.org/] Redirects: https://archiveofourown.com/ [https://archiveofourown.com/] https://archiveofourown.net/ [https://archiveofourown.net/] https://archiveofourown.site/ [https://archiveofourown.site/] https://ao3.gay/ [https://ao3.gay/] https://ao3.org/ [https://ao3.org/] Other Alternatives: https://sunset.femslash.club/ [https://sunset.femslash.club/] https://www.cfaarchive.org/ [https://www.cfaarchive.org/] https://www.adastrafanfic.com/ [https://www.adastrafanfic.com/] .
(lemmy.world)
In this community, about potentially either "colonizing", or forking Squidgeworld Archive (alternative to the fanfiction site ao3).
Home | SquidgeWorld Archive
SquidgeWorld Archive, a project of Squidge.org based on open-source code from the OTW
(squidgeworld.org)
Apparently, ao3 has recently shut-down for 2-4 weeks:
AO3 Is Down for TWO TO FOUR WEEKS! AHHHHHH!
It's a fandom emergency, Archive of Our Own, also known as AO3, is down and will remain down for two to four weeks. What will fandom do?
Nerdist (nerdist.com)
My question is: Should we consider potentially making a Fediverse alternative to Ao3 / SqWA?
If you head over to the Squidgeworld Archive website, it states that over 2,300+ ao3 users have already migrated over to SqWA from ao3.
(Now it's over 12,000+ in the last 20 hours ALONE.)
Just imagine how many people could potentially be brought into the Fediverse, if there were a working federated alternative version of ao3 / SqWA.
Or if Fediverse users, instead of creating an alternative, instead commited to "colonising" SqWA, instead.
I don't consume fanfics most of the time, but imo alternatives are always welcomed.
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