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Can someone explain to me why was Pixelfed, Loops, and Dansup being singled out for AI use?

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  • Can someone explain to me why was Pixelfed, Loops, and Dansup being singled out for AI use?

    There's no shortage of Fediverse software that are either built with AI assistance (including vibe coding), or welcomes AI contribution, but I'm not seeing the same level of outrage.

    Did Pixelfed, Loops, and Dansup specifically promise to be AI-free?

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    @manlycoffee

    Some people feel that they are fighting insidious forces (capitalism, AI, racism, etc etc) and change can only come from purity. They also can’t or don’t make anything for themselves.

    Therefore, they yell at the people who actually do stuff to be perfectly pure.

    I actually saw a presentation at Fedicon by a guy who wanted to do neighborhood peer discussion and he rejected protocol after protocol for not being perfectly distributed enough. And then he had nothing to demo

  • @manlycoffee

    Some people feel that they are fighting insidious forces (capitalism, AI, racism, etc etc) and change can only come from purity. They also can’t or don’t make anything for themselves.

    Therefore, they yell at the people who actually do stuff to be perfectly pure.

    I actually saw a presentation at Fedicon by a guy who wanted to do neighborhood peer discussion and he rejected protocol after protocol for not being perfectly distributed enough. And then he had nothing to demo

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    @neilk The last paragraph of your post perfectly sums up a very loud (but probably not very productive) part of the Fediverse. Perfect is the enemy of good etc. @manlycoffee

  • Can someone explain to me why was Pixelfed, Loops, and Dansup being singled out for AI use?

    There's no shortage of Fediverse software that are either built with AI assistance (including vibe coding), or welcomes AI contribution, but I'm not seeing the same level of outrage.

    Did Pixelfed, Loops, and Dansup specifically promise to be AI-free?

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    @manlycoffee there two groups. The group who fundamentally against any use of AI those would be hypocritical if they only focus on pixelfed . The other group have only problem with ai development, those people have a point ai dev introduce bugs at very high level.to my knowledge pixelfed was the only platform on fediverse that was willing do it

  • @manlycoffee there two groups. The group who fundamentally against any use of AI those would be hypocritical if they only focus on pixelfed . The other group have only problem with ai development, those people have a point ai dev introduce bugs at very high level.to my knowledge pixelfed was the only platform on fediverse that was willing do it

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    @hiphopheaven

    I mean, Mastodon maintainers are promising not to use AI, but they don't ban AI-generated code, so Mastodon is not guaranteed to be devoid of AI-generated code.

  • @hiphopheaven

    I mean, Mastodon maintainers are promising not to use AI, but they don't ban AI-generated code, so Mastodon is not guaranteed to be devoid of AI-generated code.

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    @manlycoffee I wasn't aware

  • @manlycoffee

    Some people feel that they are fighting insidious forces (capitalism, AI, racism, etc etc) and change can only come from purity. They also can’t or don’t make anything for themselves.

    Therefore, they yell at the people who actually do stuff to be perfectly pure.

    I actually saw a presentation at Fedicon by a guy who wanted to do neighborhood peer discussion and he rejected protocol after protocol for not being perfectly distributed enough. And then he had nothing to demo

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    @neilk@xoxo.zone this is a pretty succint explanation.

    I'm also pleasantly surprised that this thread hasn't devolved into anti-AI vitriol. Refreshing.

    Will you be attending FediForum this week?

  • Can someone explain to me why was Pixelfed, Loops, and Dansup being singled out for AI use?

    There's no shortage of Fediverse software that are either built with AI assistance (including vibe coding), or welcomes AI contribution, but I'm not seeing the same level of outrage.

    Did Pixelfed, Loops, and Dansup specifically promise to be AI-free?

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    @manlycoffee "There's no shortage of Fediverse software that are either built with AI assistance"

    They should stop. Or you should name names so we can stop using that software.

  • @hiphopheaven

    I mean, Mastodon maintainers are promising not to use AI, but they don't ban AI-generated code, so Mastodon is not guaranteed to be devoid of AI-generated code.

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    #11

    @manlycoffee @hiphopheaven Then they should ban AI-generated contributions

  • Can someone explain to me why was Pixelfed, Loops, and Dansup being singled out for AI use?

    There's no shortage of Fediverse software that are either built with AI assistance (including vibe coding), or welcomes AI contribution, but I'm not seeing the same level of outrage.

    Did Pixelfed, Loops, and Dansup specifically promise to be AI-free?

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    @manlycoffee the thing people need to know about Daniel is he often moves ahead with ideas impulsively without thinking it all through. Thankfully, unlike a lot of techbros, he's also quick to reverse bad decisions and listen sincerely to community feedback.

    In this case, the issue is already moot, which is awesome! 👏

    https://mastodon.social/@pixelfed/117350705262301318

  • @manlycoffee

    Some people feel that they are fighting insidious forces (capitalism, AI, racism, etc etc) and change can only come from purity. They also can’t or don’t make anything for themselves.

    Therefore, they yell at the people who actually do stuff to be perfectly pure.

    I actually saw a presentation at Fedicon by a guy who wanted to do neighborhood peer discussion and he rejected protocol after protocol for not being perfectly distributed enough. And then he had nothing to demo

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    @neilk @manlycoffee

    some people feel like they don't want diarrhea and that health can only come from pure food.

    therefore they yell at the deli worker who makes their sandwich to stop putting dogshit in it.

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