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Wi-Fi 8 is coming, but Ethernet still beats it for one simple reason

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  • Wi-Fi 8 is coming, just like Wi-Fi 7 was before it. And it promises us the sun, the moon, and the stars in terms of performance. Faster speeds. Lower latency. Better reliability. And sure, I'm sure it can deliver all of that. But, as this Reddit meme makes quite clear, can Wi-Fi 8 ever match the power of a good ol' Ethernet cable?

    Wi-Fi 8 is trying to fix the problems that make wireless annoying

    Reliability is finally getting more attention than raw speed

    Wi-Fi 7 already offers speeds that can frankly be called ridiculous (although that's not even the most interesting feature). It's easy to imagine that Wi-Fi 8 will only make those speeds even more wild. But surprisingly, that doesn't seem to be the main goal this time around.

    Wi-Fi 8, based on the upcoming IEEE 802.11bn standard, is focusing on something called Ultra High Reliability (UHR). According to the official IEEE objectives, the new standard is focused on improving throughput, latency, and packet loss in a big way (at least 25%).

    In other words, the goal seems to be addressing Wi-Fi's biggest issues: reliability, dependability, and all the stuff that might make one convinced to ditch Ethernet for good.

    To accomplish all of that, Wi-Fi 8 is introducing tech like multi-access point coordination, which helps compatible access points work together instead of constantly competing for airtime. There's also Non-Primary Channel Access (NPCA), which can let devices use another channel when their usual one is busy. These features could certainly help with congested networks, and hey, I'm on board with that.

    Except ... the internet at large, myself included, remains aware of one thing: Wi-Fi 8, try as it may, still can't beat a simple Ethernet cable.

    Ethernet doesn't have to fight your neighbors for airtime

    One dedicated connection makes all the difference

    Is it my turn to sing the praises of Ethernet connections? Again? Fine, I'm pretty much always up for that. As much as I admire Wi-Fi, I keep as many devices wired as I possibly can, and the benefits are huge.

    The biggest difference comes down to how each handles traffic. Wi-Fi, obviously, relies on shared radio frequencies, which means your devices have to compete for airtime with everything else stuck on that same channel. And I don't just mean your own stuff, because your neighbors can affect your Wi-Fi, too. (Not necessarily because they're doing it on purpose.)

    Wi-Fi has ways to manage all of this, but interference, waiting for a chance to transmit, and retransmissions are just part of the package. There's no way around them without a wired connection. Well, maybe if you move to the middle of nowhere and only use one device, but you'll have other problems then (it's rare to have fantastic internet in super remote areas).

    Ethernet doesn't have to deal with any of that wireless nonsense. With modern switched Ethernet, your PC gets its own dedicated, full-duplex connection to the router or switch, meaning it can send and receive data at the same time without ever having to get into fights about radio airtime.

    The real difference shows up when your network gets busy

    Consistent latency beats impressive speed test results

    When your network is running at full capacity, that's where Ethernet shines, and where Wi-Fi 8 may be better than the previous iterations, but will likely still fall behind.

    Your Wi-Fi might technically deliver solid speeds in tests, but once these wireless channels get congested, you'll start seeing latency spikes, jitter, and even packet loss. What good is speed if your connection is that unstable?

    Switching to Ethernet may be slower than Wi-Fi 8, sure. But Losing a few hundred megabits of download speed while maintaining a 100% stable connection honestly sounds like a great deal. A wired connection removes wireless interference and airtime contention from the equation, making performance much more predictable. And in the networking world, we love predictable.

    Faster Wi-Fi doesn't necessarily mean faster networking

    Those enormous theoretical speeds can be misleading

    Anyway, just because that fancy Wi-Fi 7 or Wi-Fi 8 label gives you faster Wi-Fi, that still doesn't mean your actual connection will be faster.

    A router might promise tens of gigabits per second, but those numbers often represent the combined theoretical maximum across multiple bands, not what your PC can actually achieve. Real-world Wi-Fi performance depends on a bunch of things, from signal strength to how capable your devices are. A lot of stars need to align to hit the bandwidth jackpot.

    Ethernet is more straightforward. If you've got a properly functioning 2.5Gbps or 10Gbps wired connection, you can generally expect performance close to its rated speed (unless something else is the bottleneck).

    Of course, Ethernet has one extremely inconvenient requirement

    The cable, that is

    I had a dream of wiring up my entire home. Ethernet everywhere. Every room with wired connections.

    I had to ditch that Ethernet dream, because of Ethernet's biggest flaw. It's literally a cable. Please don't groan; you saw it coming.

    Drilling holes, routing cables, installing wall jacks ... all of that costs a fortune and is a massive hassle. You're way better off just using Wi-Fi if you don't care about stable connections on every device, but that also means you don't need Wi-Fi 8 or even Wi-Fi 7.

    Sometimes, the simplest networking upgrade is still the best

    I'm excited to see what Wi-Fi 8 brings to the table, and I'm sure wireless networking will keep getting better. But those people on Reddit have a good point: Wi-Fi 8, the latest of the latest, is literally trying to improve something that Ethernet achieved ages ago. You might as well stick to the simpler solution if your situation allows.

    scritto ultima modifica di
    #4

    Every new generation of WiFi brings higher transfer speeds... at lower ranges where I can just use a cable, while WiFi reliability and range often suffer in most scenarios where a cable doesn't work well.

  • Phones with RJ45 Jack when?

    scritto ultima modifica di
    #5

    You actually can use Ethernet on phones as long as you have a USBC to RJ45 adapter!

  • Wi-Fi 8 is coming, just like Wi-Fi 7 was before it. And it promises us the sun, the moon, and the stars in terms of performance. Faster speeds. Lower latency. Better reliability. And sure, I'm sure it can deliver all of that. But, as this Reddit meme makes quite clear, can Wi-Fi 8 ever match the power of a good ol' Ethernet cable?

    Wi-Fi 8 is trying to fix the problems that make wireless annoying

    Reliability is finally getting more attention than raw speed

    Wi-Fi 7 already offers speeds that can frankly be called ridiculous (although that's not even the most interesting feature). It's easy to imagine that Wi-Fi 8 will only make those speeds even more wild. But surprisingly, that doesn't seem to be the main goal this time around.

    Wi-Fi 8, based on the upcoming IEEE 802.11bn standard, is focusing on something called Ultra High Reliability (UHR). According to the official IEEE objectives, the new standard is focused on improving throughput, latency, and packet loss in a big way (at least 25%).

    In other words, the goal seems to be addressing Wi-Fi's biggest issues: reliability, dependability, and all the stuff that might make one convinced to ditch Ethernet for good.

    To accomplish all of that, Wi-Fi 8 is introducing tech like multi-access point coordination, which helps compatible access points work together instead of constantly competing for airtime. There's also Non-Primary Channel Access (NPCA), which can let devices use another channel when their usual one is busy. These features could certainly help with congested networks, and hey, I'm on board with that.

    Except ... the internet at large, myself included, remains aware of one thing: Wi-Fi 8, try as it may, still can't beat a simple Ethernet cable.

    Ethernet doesn't have to fight your neighbors for airtime

    One dedicated connection makes all the difference

    Is it my turn to sing the praises of Ethernet connections? Again? Fine, I'm pretty much always up for that. As much as I admire Wi-Fi, I keep as many devices wired as I possibly can, and the benefits are huge.

    The biggest difference comes down to how each handles traffic. Wi-Fi, obviously, relies on shared radio frequencies, which means your devices have to compete for airtime with everything else stuck on that same channel. And I don't just mean your own stuff, because your neighbors can affect your Wi-Fi, too. (Not necessarily because they're doing it on purpose.)

    Wi-Fi has ways to manage all of this, but interference, waiting for a chance to transmit, and retransmissions are just part of the package. There's no way around them without a wired connection. Well, maybe if you move to the middle of nowhere and only use one device, but you'll have other problems then (it's rare to have fantastic internet in super remote areas).

    Ethernet doesn't have to deal with any of that wireless nonsense. With modern switched Ethernet, your PC gets its own dedicated, full-duplex connection to the router or switch, meaning it can send and receive data at the same time without ever having to get into fights about radio airtime.

    The real difference shows up when your network gets busy

    Consistent latency beats impressive speed test results

    When your network is running at full capacity, that's where Ethernet shines, and where Wi-Fi 8 may be better than the previous iterations, but will likely still fall behind.

    Your Wi-Fi might technically deliver solid speeds in tests, but once these wireless channels get congested, you'll start seeing latency spikes, jitter, and even packet loss. What good is speed if your connection is that unstable?

    Switching to Ethernet may be slower than Wi-Fi 8, sure. But Losing a few hundred megabits of download speed while maintaining a 100% stable connection honestly sounds like a great deal. A wired connection removes wireless interference and airtime contention from the equation, making performance much more predictable. And in the networking world, we love predictable.

    Faster Wi-Fi doesn't necessarily mean faster networking

    Those enormous theoretical speeds can be misleading

    Anyway, just because that fancy Wi-Fi 7 or Wi-Fi 8 label gives you faster Wi-Fi, that still doesn't mean your actual connection will be faster.

    A router might promise tens of gigabits per second, but those numbers often represent the combined theoretical maximum across multiple bands, not what your PC can actually achieve. Real-world Wi-Fi performance depends on a bunch of things, from signal strength to how capable your devices are. A lot of stars need to align to hit the bandwidth jackpot.

    Ethernet is more straightforward. If you've got a properly functioning 2.5Gbps or 10Gbps wired connection, you can generally expect performance close to its rated speed (unless something else is the bottleneck).

    Of course, Ethernet has one extremely inconvenient requirement

    The cable, that is

    I had a dream of wiring up my entire home. Ethernet everywhere. Every room with wired connections.

    I had to ditch that Ethernet dream, because of Ethernet's biggest flaw. It's literally a cable. Please don't groan; you saw it coming.

    Drilling holes, routing cables, installing wall jacks ... all of that costs a fortune and is a massive hassle. You're way better off just using Wi-Fi if you don't care about stable connections on every device, but that also means you don't need Wi-Fi 8 or even Wi-Fi 7.

    Sometimes, the simplest networking upgrade is still the best

    I'm excited to see what Wi-Fi 8 brings to the table, and I'm sure wireless networking will keep getting better. But those people on Reddit have a good point: Wi-Fi 8, the latest of the latest, is literally trying to improve something that Ethernet achieved ages ago. You might as well stick to the simpler solution if your situation allows.

    scritto ultima modifica di
    #6

    Even in a relatively empty RF environment, Wi-fi just can't seem to match the latency and reliability of a cable. I use a SteamLink to stream my PC to my living-room TV. While a wireless connection technically works, it's just not a good experience. I've move all of that over to a wired connection and the experience is very good.

  • Wi-Fi 8 is coming, just like Wi-Fi 7 was before it. And it promises us the sun, the moon, and the stars in terms of performance. Faster speeds. Lower latency. Better reliability. And sure, I'm sure it can deliver all of that. But, as this Reddit meme makes quite clear, can Wi-Fi 8 ever match the power of a good ol' Ethernet cable?

    Wi-Fi 8 is trying to fix the problems that make wireless annoying

    Reliability is finally getting more attention than raw speed

    Wi-Fi 7 already offers speeds that can frankly be called ridiculous (although that's not even the most interesting feature). It's easy to imagine that Wi-Fi 8 will only make those speeds even more wild. But surprisingly, that doesn't seem to be the main goal this time around.

    Wi-Fi 8, based on the upcoming IEEE 802.11bn standard, is focusing on something called Ultra High Reliability (UHR). According to the official IEEE objectives, the new standard is focused on improving throughput, latency, and packet loss in a big way (at least 25%).

    In other words, the goal seems to be addressing Wi-Fi's biggest issues: reliability, dependability, and all the stuff that might make one convinced to ditch Ethernet for good.

    To accomplish all of that, Wi-Fi 8 is introducing tech like multi-access point coordination, which helps compatible access points work together instead of constantly competing for airtime. There's also Non-Primary Channel Access (NPCA), which can let devices use another channel when their usual one is busy. These features could certainly help with congested networks, and hey, I'm on board with that.

    Except ... the internet at large, myself included, remains aware of one thing: Wi-Fi 8, try as it may, still can't beat a simple Ethernet cable.

    Ethernet doesn't have to fight your neighbors for airtime

    One dedicated connection makes all the difference

    Is it my turn to sing the praises of Ethernet connections? Again? Fine, I'm pretty much always up for that. As much as I admire Wi-Fi, I keep as many devices wired as I possibly can, and the benefits are huge.

    The biggest difference comes down to how each handles traffic. Wi-Fi, obviously, relies on shared radio frequencies, which means your devices have to compete for airtime with everything else stuck on that same channel. And I don't just mean your own stuff, because your neighbors can affect your Wi-Fi, too. (Not necessarily because they're doing it on purpose.)

    Wi-Fi has ways to manage all of this, but interference, waiting for a chance to transmit, and retransmissions are just part of the package. There's no way around them without a wired connection. Well, maybe if you move to the middle of nowhere and only use one device, but you'll have other problems then (it's rare to have fantastic internet in super remote areas).

    Ethernet doesn't have to deal with any of that wireless nonsense. With modern switched Ethernet, your PC gets its own dedicated, full-duplex connection to the router or switch, meaning it can send and receive data at the same time without ever having to get into fights about radio airtime.

    The real difference shows up when your network gets busy

    Consistent latency beats impressive speed test results

    When your network is running at full capacity, that's where Ethernet shines, and where Wi-Fi 8 may be better than the previous iterations, but will likely still fall behind.

    Your Wi-Fi might technically deliver solid speeds in tests, but once these wireless channels get congested, you'll start seeing latency spikes, jitter, and even packet loss. What good is speed if your connection is that unstable?

    Switching to Ethernet may be slower than Wi-Fi 8, sure. But Losing a few hundred megabits of download speed while maintaining a 100% stable connection honestly sounds like a great deal. A wired connection removes wireless interference and airtime contention from the equation, making performance much more predictable. And in the networking world, we love predictable.

    Faster Wi-Fi doesn't necessarily mean faster networking

    Those enormous theoretical speeds can be misleading

    Anyway, just because that fancy Wi-Fi 7 or Wi-Fi 8 label gives you faster Wi-Fi, that still doesn't mean your actual connection will be faster.

    A router might promise tens of gigabits per second, but those numbers often represent the combined theoretical maximum across multiple bands, not what your PC can actually achieve. Real-world Wi-Fi performance depends on a bunch of things, from signal strength to how capable your devices are. A lot of stars need to align to hit the bandwidth jackpot.

    Ethernet is more straightforward. If you've got a properly functioning 2.5Gbps or 10Gbps wired connection, you can generally expect performance close to its rated speed (unless something else is the bottleneck).

    Of course, Ethernet has one extremely inconvenient requirement

    The cable, that is

    I had a dream of wiring up my entire home. Ethernet everywhere. Every room with wired connections.

    I had to ditch that Ethernet dream, because of Ethernet's biggest flaw. It's literally a cable. Please don't groan; you saw it coming.

    Drilling holes, routing cables, installing wall jacks ... all of that costs a fortune and is a massive hassle. You're way better off just using Wi-Fi if you don't care about stable connections on every device, but that also means you don't need Wi-Fi 8 or even Wi-Fi 7.

    Sometimes, the simplest networking upgrade is still the best

    I'm excited to see what Wi-Fi 8 brings to the table, and I'm sure wireless networking will keep getting better. But those people on Reddit have a good point: Wi-Fi 8, the latest of the latest, is literally trying to improve something that Ethernet achieved ages ago. You might as well stick to the simpler solution if your situation allows.

    scritto ultima modifica di
    #7

    I mean, you can do both?

    Why is it a competition?

    WiFi is perfectly acceptable for tons of stuff, but if your streaming box or desktop or something is placed somewhere that can be wired, that's the obvious route.

  • Wi-Fi 8 is coming, just like Wi-Fi 7 was before it. And it promises us the sun, the moon, and the stars in terms of performance. Faster speeds. Lower latency. Better reliability. And sure, I'm sure it can deliver all of that. But, as this Reddit meme makes quite clear, can Wi-Fi 8 ever match the power of a good ol' Ethernet cable?

    Wi-Fi 8 is trying to fix the problems that make wireless annoying

    Reliability is finally getting more attention than raw speed

    Wi-Fi 7 already offers speeds that can frankly be called ridiculous (although that's not even the most interesting feature). It's easy to imagine that Wi-Fi 8 will only make those speeds even more wild. But surprisingly, that doesn't seem to be the main goal this time around.

    Wi-Fi 8, based on the upcoming IEEE 802.11bn standard, is focusing on something called Ultra High Reliability (UHR). According to the official IEEE objectives, the new standard is focused on improving throughput, latency, and packet loss in a big way (at least 25%).

    In other words, the goal seems to be addressing Wi-Fi's biggest issues: reliability, dependability, and all the stuff that might make one convinced to ditch Ethernet for good.

    To accomplish all of that, Wi-Fi 8 is introducing tech like multi-access point coordination, which helps compatible access points work together instead of constantly competing for airtime. There's also Non-Primary Channel Access (NPCA), which can let devices use another channel when their usual one is busy. These features could certainly help with congested networks, and hey, I'm on board with that.

    Except ... the internet at large, myself included, remains aware of one thing: Wi-Fi 8, try as it may, still can't beat a simple Ethernet cable.

    Ethernet doesn't have to fight your neighbors for airtime

    One dedicated connection makes all the difference

    Is it my turn to sing the praises of Ethernet connections? Again? Fine, I'm pretty much always up for that. As much as I admire Wi-Fi, I keep as many devices wired as I possibly can, and the benefits are huge.

    The biggest difference comes down to how each handles traffic. Wi-Fi, obviously, relies on shared radio frequencies, which means your devices have to compete for airtime with everything else stuck on that same channel. And I don't just mean your own stuff, because your neighbors can affect your Wi-Fi, too. (Not necessarily because they're doing it on purpose.)

    Wi-Fi has ways to manage all of this, but interference, waiting for a chance to transmit, and retransmissions are just part of the package. There's no way around them without a wired connection. Well, maybe if you move to the middle of nowhere and only use one device, but you'll have other problems then (it's rare to have fantastic internet in super remote areas).

    Ethernet doesn't have to deal with any of that wireless nonsense. With modern switched Ethernet, your PC gets its own dedicated, full-duplex connection to the router or switch, meaning it can send and receive data at the same time without ever having to get into fights about radio airtime.

    The real difference shows up when your network gets busy

    Consistent latency beats impressive speed test results

    When your network is running at full capacity, that's where Ethernet shines, and where Wi-Fi 8 may be better than the previous iterations, but will likely still fall behind.

    Your Wi-Fi might technically deliver solid speeds in tests, but once these wireless channels get congested, you'll start seeing latency spikes, jitter, and even packet loss. What good is speed if your connection is that unstable?

    Switching to Ethernet may be slower than Wi-Fi 8, sure. But Losing a few hundred megabits of download speed while maintaining a 100% stable connection honestly sounds like a great deal. A wired connection removes wireless interference and airtime contention from the equation, making performance much more predictable. And in the networking world, we love predictable.

    Faster Wi-Fi doesn't necessarily mean faster networking

    Those enormous theoretical speeds can be misleading

    Anyway, just because that fancy Wi-Fi 7 or Wi-Fi 8 label gives you faster Wi-Fi, that still doesn't mean your actual connection will be faster.

    A router might promise tens of gigabits per second, but those numbers often represent the combined theoretical maximum across multiple bands, not what your PC can actually achieve. Real-world Wi-Fi performance depends on a bunch of things, from signal strength to how capable your devices are. A lot of stars need to align to hit the bandwidth jackpot.

    Ethernet is more straightforward. If you've got a properly functioning 2.5Gbps or 10Gbps wired connection, you can generally expect performance close to its rated speed (unless something else is the bottleneck).

    Of course, Ethernet has one extremely inconvenient requirement

    The cable, that is

    I had a dream of wiring up my entire home. Ethernet everywhere. Every room with wired connections.

    I had to ditch that Ethernet dream, because of Ethernet's biggest flaw. It's literally a cable. Please don't groan; you saw it coming.

    Drilling holes, routing cables, installing wall jacks ... all of that costs a fortune and is a massive hassle. You're way better off just using Wi-Fi if you don't care about stable connections on every device, but that also means you don't need Wi-Fi 8 or even Wi-Fi 7.

    Sometimes, the simplest networking upgrade is still the best

    I'm excited to see what Wi-Fi 8 brings to the table, and I'm sure wireless networking will keep getting better. But those people on Reddit have a good point: Wi-Fi 8, the latest of the latest, is literally trying to improve something that Ethernet achieved ages ago. You might as well stick to the simpler solution if your situation allows.

    scritto ultima modifica di
    #8

    They want to be able to see us through our walls even better.

  • Wi-Fi 8 is coming, just like Wi-Fi 7 was before it. And it promises us the sun, the moon, and the stars in terms of performance. Faster speeds. Lower latency. Better reliability. And sure, I'm sure it can deliver all of that. But, as this Reddit meme makes quite clear, can Wi-Fi 8 ever match the power of a good ol' Ethernet cable?

    Wi-Fi 8 is trying to fix the problems that make wireless annoying

    Reliability is finally getting more attention than raw speed

    Wi-Fi 7 already offers speeds that can frankly be called ridiculous (although that's not even the most interesting feature). It's easy to imagine that Wi-Fi 8 will only make those speeds even more wild. But surprisingly, that doesn't seem to be the main goal this time around.

    Wi-Fi 8, based on the upcoming IEEE 802.11bn standard, is focusing on something called Ultra High Reliability (UHR). According to the official IEEE objectives, the new standard is focused on improving throughput, latency, and packet loss in a big way (at least 25%).

    In other words, the goal seems to be addressing Wi-Fi's biggest issues: reliability, dependability, and all the stuff that might make one convinced to ditch Ethernet for good.

    To accomplish all of that, Wi-Fi 8 is introducing tech like multi-access point coordination, which helps compatible access points work together instead of constantly competing for airtime. There's also Non-Primary Channel Access (NPCA), which can let devices use another channel when their usual one is busy. These features could certainly help with congested networks, and hey, I'm on board with that.

    Except ... the internet at large, myself included, remains aware of one thing: Wi-Fi 8, try as it may, still can't beat a simple Ethernet cable.

    Ethernet doesn't have to fight your neighbors for airtime

    One dedicated connection makes all the difference

    Is it my turn to sing the praises of Ethernet connections? Again? Fine, I'm pretty much always up for that. As much as I admire Wi-Fi, I keep as many devices wired as I possibly can, and the benefits are huge.

    The biggest difference comes down to how each handles traffic. Wi-Fi, obviously, relies on shared radio frequencies, which means your devices have to compete for airtime with everything else stuck on that same channel. And I don't just mean your own stuff, because your neighbors can affect your Wi-Fi, too. (Not necessarily because they're doing it on purpose.)

    Wi-Fi has ways to manage all of this, but interference, waiting for a chance to transmit, and retransmissions are just part of the package. There's no way around them without a wired connection. Well, maybe if you move to the middle of nowhere and only use one device, but you'll have other problems then (it's rare to have fantastic internet in super remote areas).

    Ethernet doesn't have to deal with any of that wireless nonsense. With modern switched Ethernet, your PC gets its own dedicated, full-duplex connection to the router or switch, meaning it can send and receive data at the same time without ever having to get into fights about radio airtime.

    The real difference shows up when your network gets busy

    Consistent latency beats impressive speed test results

    When your network is running at full capacity, that's where Ethernet shines, and where Wi-Fi 8 may be better than the previous iterations, but will likely still fall behind.

    Your Wi-Fi might technically deliver solid speeds in tests, but once these wireless channels get congested, you'll start seeing latency spikes, jitter, and even packet loss. What good is speed if your connection is that unstable?

    Switching to Ethernet may be slower than Wi-Fi 8, sure. But Losing a few hundred megabits of download speed while maintaining a 100% stable connection honestly sounds like a great deal. A wired connection removes wireless interference and airtime contention from the equation, making performance much more predictable. And in the networking world, we love predictable.

    Faster Wi-Fi doesn't necessarily mean faster networking

    Those enormous theoretical speeds can be misleading

    Anyway, just because that fancy Wi-Fi 7 or Wi-Fi 8 label gives you faster Wi-Fi, that still doesn't mean your actual connection will be faster.

    A router might promise tens of gigabits per second, but those numbers often represent the combined theoretical maximum across multiple bands, not what your PC can actually achieve. Real-world Wi-Fi performance depends on a bunch of things, from signal strength to how capable your devices are. A lot of stars need to align to hit the bandwidth jackpot.

    Ethernet is more straightforward. If you've got a properly functioning 2.5Gbps or 10Gbps wired connection, you can generally expect performance close to its rated speed (unless something else is the bottleneck).

    Of course, Ethernet has one extremely inconvenient requirement

    The cable, that is

    I had a dream of wiring up my entire home. Ethernet everywhere. Every room with wired connections.

    I had to ditch that Ethernet dream, because of Ethernet's biggest flaw. It's literally a cable. Please don't groan; you saw it coming.

    Drilling holes, routing cables, installing wall jacks ... all of that costs a fortune and is a massive hassle. You're way better off just using Wi-Fi if you don't care about stable connections on every device, but that also means you don't need Wi-Fi 8 or even Wi-Fi 7.

    Sometimes, the simplest networking upgrade is still the best

    I'm excited to see what Wi-Fi 8 brings to the table, and I'm sure wireless networking will keep getting better. But those people on Reddit have a good point: Wi-Fi 8, the latest of the latest, is literally trying to improve something that Ethernet achieved ages ago. You might as well stick to the simpler solution if your situation allows.

    scritto ultima modifica di brucethemoose@lemmy.world
    #9

    Also, one thing I hate is the disparity in consumer stuff.

    WiFi 7 is already everywhere. Everything new supports it.

    2.5G, though? Switches for it are expensive. Heck, our new smart TV comes with a 100mbps Ethernet port, one so bad we had to switch to WiFi because it was dropping streams.

  • They want to be able to see us through our walls even better.

    scritto ultima modifica di socialistvibes01@lemmy.ml
    #10

    Did you see NAZA? Palantir would love that.

  • Wi-Fi 8 is coming, just like Wi-Fi 7 was before it. And it promises us the sun, the moon, and the stars in terms of performance. Faster speeds. Lower latency. Better reliability. And sure, I'm sure it can deliver all of that. But, as this Reddit meme makes quite clear, can Wi-Fi 8 ever match the power of a good ol' Ethernet cable?

    Wi-Fi 8 is trying to fix the problems that make wireless annoying

    Reliability is finally getting more attention than raw speed

    Wi-Fi 7 already offers speeds that can frankly be called ridiculous (although that's not even the most interesting feature). It's easy to imagine that Wi-Fi 8 will only make those speeds even more wild. But surprisingly, that doesn't seem to be the main goal this time around.

    Wi-Fi 8, based on the upcoming IEEE 802.11bn standard, is focusing on something called Ultra High Reliability (UHR). According to the official IEEE objectives, the new standard is focused on improving throughput, latency, and packet loss in a big way (at least 25%).

    In other words, the goal seems to be addressing Wi-Fi's biggest issues: reliability, dependability, and all the stuff that might make one convinced to ditch Ethernet for good.

    To accomplish all of that, Wi-Fi 8 is introducing tech like multi-access point coordination, which helps compatible access points work together instead of constantly competing for airtime. There's also Non-Primary Channel Access (NPCA), which can let devices use another channel when their usual one is busy. These features could certainly help with congested networks, and hey, I'm on board with that.

    Except ... the internet at large, myself included, remains aware of one thing: Wi-Fi 8, try as it may, still can't beat a simple Ethernet cable.

    Ethernet doesn't have to fight your neighbors for airtime

    One dedicated connection makes all the difference

    Is it my turn to sing the praises of Ethernet connections? Again? Fine, I'm pretty much always up for that. As much as I admire Wi-Fi, I keep as many devices wired as I possibly can, and the benefits are huge.

    The biggest difference comes down to how each handles traffic. Wi-Fi, obviously, relies on shared radio frequencies, which means your devices have to compete for airtime with everything else stuck on that same channel. And I don't just mean your own stuff, because your neighbors can affect your Wi-Fi, too. (Not necessarily because they're doing it on purpose.)

    Wi-Fi has ways to manage all of this, but interference, waiting for a chance to transmit, and retransmissions are just part of the package. There's no way around them without a wired connection. Well, maybe if you move to the middle of nowhere and only use one device, but you'll have other problems then (it's rare to have fantastic internet in super remote areas).

    Ethernet doesn't have to deal with any of that wireless nonsense. With modern switched Ethernet, your PC gets its own dedicated, full-duplex connection to the router or switch, meaning it can send and receive data at the same time without ever having to get into fights about radio airtime.

    The real difference shows up when your network gets busy

    Consistent latency beats impressive speed test results

    When your network is running at full capacity, that's where Ethernet shines, and where Wi-Fi 8 may be better than the previous iterations, but will likely still fall behind.

    Your Wi-Fi might technically deliver solid speeds in tests, but once these wireless channels get congested, you'll start seeing latency spikes, jitter, and even packet loss. What good is speed if your connection is that unstable?

    Switching to Ethernet may be slower than Wi-Fi 8, sure. But Losing a few hundred megabits of download speed while maintaining a 100% stable connection honestly sounds like a great deal. A wired connection removes wireless interference and airtime contention from the equation, making performance much more predictable. And in the networking world, we love predictable.

    Faster Wi-Fi doesn't necessarily mean faster networking

    Those enormous theoretical speeds can be misleading

    Anyway, just because that fancy Wi-Fi 7 or Wi-Fi 8 label gives you faster Wi-Fi, that still doesn't mean your actual connection will be faster.

    A router might promise tens of gigabits per second, but those numbers often represent the combined theoretical maximum across multiple bands, not what your PC can actually achieve. Real-world Wi-Fi performance depends on a bunch of things, from signal strength to how capable your devices are. A lot of stars need to align to hit the bandwidth jackpot.

    Ethernet is more straightforward. If you've got a properly functioning 2.5Gbps or 10Gbps wired connection, you can generally expect performance close to its rated speed (unless something else is the bottleneck).

    Of course, Ethernet has one extremely inconvenient requirement

    The cable, that is

    I had a dream of wiring up my entire home. Ethernet everywhere. Every room with wired connections.

    I had to ditch that Ethernet dream, because of Ethernet's biggest flaw. It's literally a cable. Please don't groan; you saw it coming.

    Drilling holes, routing cables, installing wall jacks ... all of that costs a fortune and is a massive hassle. You're way better off just using Wi-Fi if you don't care about stable connections on every device, but that also means you don't need Wi-Fi 8 or even Wi-Fi 7.

    Sometimes, the simplest networking upgrade is still the best

    I'm excited to see what Wi-Fi 8 brings to the table, and I'm sure wireless networking will keep getting better. But those people on Reddit have a good point: Wi-Fi 8, the latest of the latest, is literally trying to improve something that Ethernet achieved ages ago. You might as well stick to the simpler solution if your situation allows.

    scritto ultima modifica di themurphy@lemmy.ml
    #11

    This could have been a great article if they didnt have to bring cables into this.

    If I could use a cable, I would. I fucking know that it's more reliable. But what the hell other than a PC, home server or a TV-box can smash a cable in?

  • You actually can use Ethernet on phones as long as you have a USBC to RJ45 adapter!

    scritto ultima modifica di zoot@reddthat.com
    #12
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  • Did you see NAZA? Palantir would love that.

    scritto ultima modifica di
    #13

    I didn't watch that, but heard about it. They would for sure. They are really attempting Minority Report on the world.


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