@jaffathecake @froztbyte @ddelemeny Um, you are being abusive, though. You are straw manning people's arguments, white knighting things nobody asked you to, and refusing to answer very direct questions, usually while deflecting.

In other words you are not engaging in honest dialog, you appear intractable and dismissive of the audience. If you really believe Fedi is the space you describe it as, nobody is keeping you, or Mozilla here.

@froztbyte @reflex @ddelemeny I agree it can be different if the person is trying to get away, and is unable to, but that absolutely is not the case here, correct?

@jaffathecake @fasterandworse @duke_of_germany show me where they said you personally are like a rapist. all i see is a rhetorical point about consent using charged language.

@reflex @froztbyte @ddelemeny I don't believe I described Fedi as something negative. What did I miss?

@jaffathecake @froztbyte @ddelemeny You are doing it again.

@jaffathecake @reflex @ddelemeny it is in fact exactly the case here

you occupy a position of (some, limited, specific) power: you are the designated voice voice representing a certain aspect of moz/fx here

for _that reason_ people would want to follow you

for _almost every post you make_ people are (per the metaphor) inching away from you

it's ... not great

@angelfeast @fasterandworse @duke_of_germany there's a pretty clear comparison to rape being drawn in that message. I'm not going to debate this further.

@jaffathecake @fasterandworse @duke_of_germany well yeah, there's a comparison being made to rape. that's the point. i'm not debating this either. i am simply pointing out that nobody called you a rapist.

@angelfeast @fasterandworse @duke_of_germany yep, that's why I said 'compared' and not 'called'.

@jaffathecake @fasterandworse @duke_of_germany excuse me, semantics. so someone arguing that they feel like you are setting rhetoric up to dismiss others as "anti-ai crazies" is putting words in your mouth, but someone making a rhetorical point about consent is comparing you personally to a rapist and that's not putting words in their mouth. got it.

@angelfeast @fasterandworse @duke_of_germany you're getting hung up on a line that was flagged as tongue-in-cheek with an emoji. But yes, I didn't appreciate the comparison, and blocked the person who made it.

@reflex @jaffathecake @ddelemeny
> If Mozilla actually cared about accessibility

the zoomie gif on the post would probably also not have been there

@davidgerard @duke_of_germany @jaffathecake @firefoxwebdevs i used to try to assume constructive framing for all arguments like this but since the advent of the slop merchants all bets are off. they are immune to reason because listening to you means they make less money

@whitequark @jaffathecake @froztbyte @barubary i would even broaden this to "every person involved in every other debacle just like this happening everywhere at this moment"

@jaffathecake @fasterandworse @duke_of_germany good job not addressing what i was actually saying

@jaffathecake @froztbyte @barubary

Is that place Mozilla's own bugtracker? This mess started their awhile back.

@fennix I'm not sure what this is in reply to. I think you're asking if Bugzilla is a place to do something in particular, but I'm not sure what.

@jaffathecake

Specifically this:

"hey, you know that place that has a strong representation of people who don't like AI? They don't like AI." did not seem like a good use of my time.

When the original LLM chat sidebar feature was being added as automatically-enabled, the issues opened on Mozilla's own bugtracker garnered the largest number of negative replies and comments I've ever seen for anything Mozilla's done.

Attempting to play this off as a mastodon thing is ridiculous and absurd. It ignores all the active and passionate users who promote the browser to people, who make corporate policy such that Firefox has to be installed alongside Chrome, etc.

@davidgerard @barubary @jaffathecake @duke_of_germany @firefoxwebdevs Something something hard to get a man to understand something...

@duke_of_germany @jaffathecake @firefoxwebdevs @davidgerard Imagine getting 80 brief years on this beautiful marble (if you're lucky) and spending half of it simping for billionaires. Tragic.