@quillmatiq @boris Thank you. That's the clear answer I needed. Progress is being made to actual independent federation. And I think you mentioned previously that they can all post to each other?

@boris If Mastodon.social goes away tommorow, thecanadian.social will still be able to function as will Pixelfed, Loops, etc..

I think you've answered my question.

@boris I didn't like the characterization that I was somehow being hysterical, I thought my comments reflected what a great many perceive to be true. So to put those fears to bed if BlueSky went away tommorow would all of the applications built on AT still be able to function and federate? Would devepment on the protocol continue independently?

@boris @quillmatiq @mmasnick I'm not really "yelling" at you as voicing my misgivings about the atmosphere. I have no interest in participating in the AT community and I think I've already outlined my reasons why. Basically the fediverse checks most of my boxes while the atmosphere does not so that's where I'm directing my effort. I was merely trying g to explain why.

@boris @quillmatiq @mmasnick And if we're going to use the email analogy AT right now more resembles AOL email than SMTP.

@boris @quillmatiq @mmasnick My comment is not simply in regards to the number of apps. It is in the number of apps that truly federate between each other and in heterogeneous environments. My original comment was meant to convey that BlueSky/AT folks often talk a lot about dectralization and federation but from what I can see from the outside looking in it seems like lip service.

@boris @quillmatiq @mmasnick I was Boris, I'm just not sold on atmosphere as fulfilling my personal requirements for an independent federated space. Simply too many roads run through BlueSky which I feel has been captured. In any other time I wouldn't be as sensitive to this as I am now however my country is under existential threat and I simply don't feel that atmosphere can be trusted. The fediverse though not perfect self regulates more effectively and independently.

@quillmatiq @mastodonmigration @mmasnick So interop is being worked on through third parties? There's different interop for different applications?

@quillmatiq @mastodonmigration @mmasnick @ricci My original comment was more about moving the needle in terms federated decentralized applications. No one Denies there's activity in the Atmosphere but does it fulfill the promise of independent but federated social media. In my mind it hasn't reached that high water mark.

@quillmatiq @mastodonmigration @mmasnick Can they post to each other?

@mastodonmigration @quillmatiq @mmasnick Mike always talks about decentralized social media but BlueSky and AT protocol haven't really moved the needle. Meanwhile in the fediverse there's Mastodon, Loops, Pixelfed, Lemmy, Miskey, etc, etc, etc...