@mike would email keep working if Gmail shutdown?

Tight coupling of accounts to domain names would mean a lot of people would lose their email identifier.

Those that have their own domains would repoint to a new host.

It would be really tough for a lot of people but yes email would continue.

Same for ATProto.

@mike conflating Bluesky-the-company and the ATProto community are not great. “Yelling”

It’s like as if I constantly shared the belief that Mastodon GMBH makes all decisions.

It’s wrong, and doesn’t respect the work of everyone that helps build the Fediverse.

I’d ask you to not do this. You don’t have to join, but spreading misinformation doesn’t help anyone.

@mike it does not.

It’s an open protocol with 1000s of account hosts that anyone can spin up in seconds at low cost.

Oh, and it’s applying to join the IETF, just like SMTP.

@mike @quillmatiq @mmasnick all of the apps I listed and every account all federate with each other. There are over 2000 PDS hosts.

The data lives in every users account. Apps aggregate them as needed. It’s all connected and run by many people.

The criticism you are looking for is “Bluesky hosts too many of the accounts”…

…which the ATProto community is actively bottoms up growing. Yelling at us is not helping.

Got any suggestions? Want to donate? Support Blacksky, invest in Gander.

@mike @quillmatiq @mmasnick that’s fine - but “not really moved the needle” is incorrect - there’s a sample of a dozen or so apps, out of many more.

All using the same protocol just like the AP ones you listed.

Go yell at Bluesky! It’s a company! They can do what they do and you can disagree.

The #ATProto community is building bottoms up.

It’s like saying you aren’t going to trust the email network because Gmail and Office365 are involved in routing email. This is how protocols work.

@mike @quillmatiq @mmasnick hey Mike Fraser you were in the audience when I gave this talk at #Fedicon weren’t you?

Beyond Microblogging: AT Protocol for Building Unique Social Apps

I gave this presentation at [[Fedicon]] 2025 in Vancouver.My goal was not to do a protocol deep dive, but rather showcase all of the beyond microblogging app...

Boris Mann's Homepage (bmannconsulting.com)

It has a list of some of the many projects in the ATProto ecosystem

Please don’t erase the #ATProto community. We’re on the same side.