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some feedback about Lemmy/PieFed from Reddit users

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  • Missing posts happen all the time on Lemmy as well - those phenomena are related to the per-instance dynamics (e.g. PieFed.social vs. PieFed.ca vs. PieFed.World, etc.), not the per-software differences (Lemmy vs. PieFed vs. Mbin).

    Reasons this can happen include:

    • major network delays - this is much more rare these days, but a bot attack could cause a temporary issue, or if you know about mander.xyz (a Lemmy instance dedicated to scientific content) that one is pretty much just gone for now (the backup is super old so admin is waiting, hoping it will come back rather than the most recent few months merely being permanently gone)
    • if the poster is blocked on your instance, for being a known troll (or the instance admin felt that way, whether overzealous in that opinion or no)
    • for Lemmy, at least pre-v1.0 that hasn't been released yet, at least one person needs to to sign up to a community first, before content will start being pulled in from it for everyone else; although I thought PieFed did away with the requirement so this should not be an issue for you

    Taking a quick look, PeerTube@lemmy.ml looks pretty dead - sorted by time there's one post from 2 days ago, before that only 2 posts in the last month, the next post 3 months ago, then others 7-8 months ago. And looking from a guest/anonymous account, that's identically what I see on PieFed.social as well (barring some slight time reporting differences e.g. 2 vs. 3 months but the poster name matches) at https://piefed.social/c/peertube@lemmy.ml, and I also confirmed the same at https://piefed.ca/c/peertube@lemmy.ml.

    So I wonder if PieFed.social is now user-blocking lemmy.ml automatically. To confirm: did you add any kind of blocking for lemmy.ml communities or users? On a desktop machine, go into your Account, Blocks & Filters, scroll down to the Blocks section and look especially at the Instances section - does it have lemmy.ml in it, or is it empty?

    Of course if you are using a 3rd-party app, that could be a factor as well. In that case, first I suggest to confirm that you can see the posts that you are wanting to see from a desktop with your logged-in PieFed.social account, and then deal with whatever may be going on with the app.

    Is there a certain post in particular that you were hoping to see? (or at least using it as a way to understand what it is that you are seeing) That would help me to diagnose, like especially if it is super-old, like years, that could help explain what is going on?

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    well to be honest, I haven’t done any thorough research on the topic, but I know I haven’t personnaly blocked anyone on PieFed since it was my first day and my first post on it.

    For now, especially because I can’t find a mobile app with an UI similar to Voyager, I think I’ll stay on Lemmy unless PieFed makes major progress.

    Edit: although I’m now noticing that the Progressive Web App has an UI I appreciate more than Interstellar’s, so I’ll give it a shot😇

    Edit2: it turns out that PieFed was already blocking 4 instances without me doing anything, so that’s why some comments were missing.

  • well to be honest, I haven’t done any thorough research on the topic, but I know I haven’t personnaly blocked anyone on PieFed since it was my first day and my first post on it.

    For now, especially because I can’t find a mobile app with an UI similar to Voyager, I think I’ll stay on Lemmy unless PieFed makes major progress.

    Edit: although I’m now noticing that the Progressive Web App has an UI I appreciate more than Interstellar’s, so I’ll give it a shot😇

    Edit2: it turns out that PieFed was already blocking 4 instances without me doing anything, so that’s why some comments were missing.

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    Oh wow, which ones are blocked automatically?

    It seems like PieFed.social is quite opinionated, which is a fact that has not been made transparent to the community - e.g. I have a PieFed.social account myself, and I had no idea that these blocks were there (also, they aren't present for me).

    But that's the instance itself - the software PieFed or its fork PyLova are outstanding, and definitely superior to Lemmy, even though your choice of instance admin matters far more than choice of software platform.

    If you did leave PieFed.social - not that I am recommending that you do, especially now that you see how to remove the blocks, which solves your immediate issue - then I recommend checking out PieFed.zip or PieFed.ca as both having outstanding instance admin teams that take good care of their users. e.g. PieFed.zip also has a couple of instance blocks placed onto your account when you join, but you are sent a message explaining what these are, and importantly how to remove them, not leaving you guessing what is going on.

    Again I am really curious which instances were blocked automatically for you, on PieFed.social?

    One more note: Lemmy.ml is notorious for being an echo chamber as well, instance banning MANY people over the years, so the fact that PieFed.social has lately become similar is not a strike against the PieFed software platform itself anymore than lemmy.ml's choices would be a strike against you having an account on some other instance like sh.itjust.works.

  • well to be honest, I haven’t done any thorough research on the topic, but I know I haven’t personnaly blocked anyone on PieFed since it was my first day and my first post on it.

    For now, especially because I can’t find a mobile app with an UI similar to Voyager, I think I’ll stay on Lemmy unless PieFed makes major progress.

    Edit: although I’m now noticing that the Progressive Web App has an UI I appreciate more than Interstellar’s, so I’ll give it a shot😇

    Edit2: it turns out that PieFed was already blocking 4 instances without me doing anything, so that’s why some comments were missing.

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    Voyager support Piefed

  • Voyager support Piefed

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    Only the beta version does for now, but it’s coming.

    But in the end the PWA version of PieFed is fine too (Interstellar wasn’t for me at all).

  • Oh wow, which ones are blocked automatically?

    It seems like PieFed.social is quite opinionated, which is a fact that has not been made transparent to the community - e.g. I have a PieFed.social account myself, and I had no idea that these blocks were there (also, they aren't present for me).

    But that's the instance itself - the software PieFed or its fork PyLova are outstanding, and definitely superior to Lemmy, even though your choice of instance admin matters far more than choice of software platform.

    If you did leave PieFed.social - not that I am recommending that you do, especially now that you see how to remove the blocks, which solves your immediate issue - then I recommend checking out PieFed.zip or PieFed.ca as both having outstanding instance admin teams that take good care of their users. e.g. PieFed.zip also has a couple of instance blocks placed onto your account when you join, but you are sent a message explaining what these are, and importantly how to remove them, not leaving you guessing what is going on.

    Again I am really curious which instances were blocked automatically for you, on PieFed.social?

    One more note: Lemmy.ml is notorious for being an echo chamber as well, instance banning MANY people over the years, so the fact that PieFed.social has lately become similar is not a strike against the PieFed software platform itself anymore than lemmy.ml's choices would be a strike against you having an account on some other instance like sh.itjust.works.

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    Well from what I remember, there was lemmy.ml and 3 others that I don’t remember.

    Also to be fair, I got a message telling me some instance were blocked when I signed in on PieFed.social, but I never read it😅

    So I’m the guilty one!

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  • Only the beta version does for now, but it’s coming.

    But in the end the PWA version of PieFed is fine too (Interstellar wasn’t for me at all).

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    Nice! If at some point you want to give another try an app, !summit@lemmy.world support Piefed for good

  • Well from what I remember, there was lemmy.ml and 3 others that I don’t remember.

    Also to be fair, I got a message telling me some instance were blocked when I signed in on PieFed.social, but I never read it😅

    So I’m the guilty one!

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    The ones usually defederated from by most instances across the Threadiverse are hexbear.net, lemmygrad.ml, and hilariouschaos.com. However, it would be weird to instance block them from PieFed.social because they look like they are still already defederated from, so there should be no need to add a block on top of that?

    I am kinda glad that PieFed.social helps provide a less toxic environment for new joiners. The problem is, as you are discovering first-hand, the confusion that it creates when people have a really hard time finding this stuff out.

    Now that your immediate problem is solved, do you think you'll remain on PieFed.social, or switch to something like PieFed.zip or quokk.au?

    How are you liking PieFed itself? For me it took weeks to figure out a whole new workflow, but once I adjusted I was definitely sold on it being better.

  • The ones usually defederated from by most instances across the Threadiverse are hexbear.net, lemmygrad.ml, and hilariouschaos.com. However, it would be weird to instance block them from PieFed.social because they look like they are still already defederated from, so there should be no need to add a block on top of that?

    I am kinda glad that PieFed.social helps provide a less toxic environment for new joiners. The problem is, as you are discovering first-hand, the confusion that it creates when people have a really hard time finding this stuff out.

    Now that your immediate problem is solved, do you think you'll remain on PieFed.social, or switch to something like PieFed.zip or quokk.au?

    How are you liking PieFed itself? For me it took weeks to figure out a whole new workflow, but once I adjusted I was definitely sold on it being better.

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    There was at least another instance which wasn’t in your list which was blocked, but, again, I don’t remember what its weird nane was😅

    Since the problem was me not reading their onboarding message, I’m gonna stay on PieFed.social except if there is a weird controversy I don’t know about yet.

    I also think I’ll progressively stop using Lemmy.

  • There was at least another instance which wasn’t in your list which was blocked, but, again, I don’t remember what its weird nane was😅

    Since the problem was me not reading their onboarding message, I’m gonna stay on PieFed.social except if there is a weird controversy I don’t know about yet.

    I also think I’ll progressively stop using Lemmy.

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    You should really enjoy it!:-)

  • There was at least another instance which wasn’t in your list which was blocked, but, again, I don’t remember what its weird nane was😅

    Since the problem was me not reading their onboarding message, I’m gonna stay on PieFed.social except if there is a weird controversy I don’t know about yet.

    I also think I’ll progressively stop using Lemmy.

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    Enjoy! Feel free to ask on !piefed_help@piefed.social if you have any questions


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