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Six AgiBot G2 Humanoids Run a Shanghai Convenience Store for 24 Hours, Logging 1,730 Tasks

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    That sounds pretty cool!

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    The figures released at the close, however, were task counts, and AgiBot has not yet published success rates or takeover numbers.

    I assume there's still a lot of work that needs to be done before these are practical, but I don't doubt that eventually robots will take over. The transition will suck, I just hope the long-term won't suck as well.

  • Youth unemployment in China is about the same as most of Europe, and much lower than say Sweden or Spain https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/youth_unemployment

    And that's perfectly healthy too because youth unemployment counts people between 15 and 24. So, that just means kids are in school instead of doing child labor, and young people have more options to go to university before joining the workforce. But I'm sure you thought this was some clever gotcha.

    I guess you think that them kids should be put to work as soon as they can walk so they can start making money for the pedo oligarchs am I right?

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    Youth unemployment is at 18% in China (it was around 23% / 24% a couple years ago, which is what I was thinking original). And those stats exclude students. Also, I should have prefaced that I meant in large functioning economies.

    I guess you think that them kids should be put to work as soon as they can walk

    It's perfectly normal to get a part-time job when you're 16 or 17. Canada's youth unemployment rate is about 13%. Are you suggesting Canadian teens are being used for child labour? Do you think those stats are tracking the 60hr American work week for teens?

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    Something that robots might not be able to do is to create value, from which profits are then taken from. An employee is tasked with doing X and over the course of doing X for three decades they've found an efficient way of doing it, which has maybe enabled them to do X + Y or X^2^. This is something that automation can not do (yet). The work of a robot is a constant and often very slow (when the environment is not fixed). Value creation has terminated and value is suspended until it's touched by another human-worker who will either add or negate value. Just a random thought.

    A fully automated-factory hasen't just annihilated the labour bill to $0.00. It's also destroyed any capacity for value creation and therefore surplus profits or maybe any profits. If ten entities can all assemble autonomous factories how will they compete? On price? How? Everything is fixed. Inputs go in and inputs go out. People designing ever more efficient machines? There comes a point where scale surpasses that of an entrepreneur or any business man. This is where socialism should step in...

    AI 'creations' are inherently value-less. What will a market do when everyone can tell an AI to write a photoshop clone. Who is then buying photoshop clones? No one. Who would buy AI music when anyone can prompt their own computer for a song? These markets will collapse. What about bridge designs?

  • The figures released at the close, however, were task counts, and AgiBot has not yet published success rates or takeover numbers.

    I assume there's still a lot of work that needs to be done before these are practical, but I don't doubt that eventually robots will take over. The transition will suck, I just hope the long-term won't suck as well.

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    #14

    I imagine it will suck under capitalism.

  • Youth unemployment is at 18% in China (it was around 23% / 24% a couple years ago, which is what I was thinking original). And those stats exclude students. Also, I should have prefaced that I meant in large functioning economies.

    I guess you think that them kids should be put to work as soon as they can walk

    It's perfectly normal to get a part-time job when you're 16 or 17. Canada's youth unemployment rate is about 13%. Are you suggesting Canadian teens are being used for child labour? Do you think those stats are tracking the 60hr American work week for teens?

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    Again, as the link I provided explains, youth unemployment counts 15 through 24 year olds. And those stats can't exclude students because school education in China is mandatory, so anybody under 18 is in school by definition.

    It's perfectly normal to get a part time job for kids instead enjoying their youth under barbaric capitalist regimes. Obviously, Canadian teens are doing child labour instead of doing literally anything else. I grew up in USSR, and I didn't have to be exploited in my teens. Amazing how you see this as normal.

  • Again, as the link I provided explains, youth unemployment counts 15 through 24 year olds. And those stats can't exclude students because school education in China is mandatory, so anybody under 18 is in school by definition.

    It's perfectly normal to get a part time job for kids instead enjoying their youth under barbaric capitalist regimes. Obviously, Canadian teens are doing child labour instead of doing literally anything else. I grew up in USSR, and I didn't have to be exploited in my teens. Amazing how you see this as normal.

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    And those stats can't exclude students because school education in China is mandatory, so anybody under 18 is in school by definition.

    I just can't with people like you. If school is mandatory for 18 and under, and those starts exclude students, then the remaining demographic that the 15 to 24 yr olds are... drum roll... youths from 19 to 24!

    Obviously, Canadian teens are doing child labour instead of doing literally anything else.

    I don't think you understand what "part-time" means. It literally means working a job for less than full time, and can even be a single hour per week.

    The point of a part-time job for youths is to give them an idea of what actually working is like. Giving them real responsibilities (with real consequences; good and bad), thereby helping them with personal growth. And giving them a sense of accomplishment (I earned this money).

    I worked part-time during highschool, and I had more free time than I knew what to do with. My job was super easy and practically little was expected from me. I had zero need to work, but it's something that helped me appreciate the world around me better.

    I have no idea where you're getting this child exploitation garbage from. It sounds a lot like some ingrained communist ideas about the evils of the West (admittedly, not all wrong).

    For the record, my parents grew up during the Iron Curtain under Soviet oppression. I've heard all the stories and perspectives. You have some strange ideas.

  • And those stats can't exclude students because school education in China is mandatory, so anybody under 18 is in school by definition.

    I just can't with people like you. If school is mandatory for 18 and under, and those starts exclude students, then the remaining demographic that the 15 to 24 yr olds are... drum roll... youths from 19 to 24!

    Obviously, Canadian teens are doing child labour instead of doing literally anything else.

    I don't think you understand what "part-time" means. It literally means working a job for less than full time, and can even be a single hour per week.

    The point of a part-time job for youths is to give them an idea of what actually working is like. Giving them real responsibilities (with real consequences; good and bad), thereby helping them with personal growth. And giving them a sense of accomplishment (I earned this money).

    I worked part-time during highschool, and I had more free time than I knew what to do with. My job was super easy and practically little was expected from me. I had zero need to work, but it's something that helped me appreciate the world around me better.

    I have no idea where you're getting this child exploitation garbage from. It sounds a lot like some ingrained communist ideas about the evils of the West (admittedly, not all wrong).

    For the record, my parents grew up during the Iron Curtain under Soviet oppression. I've heard all the stories and perspectives. You have some strange ideas.

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    I just can’t with people like you. If school is mandatory for 18 and under, and those stats exclude students, then the remaining demographic out of the 15 to 24 yr olds are… drum roll… youths from 19 to 24!

    Then it would just say 19-24 wouldn't it genius? The stats obviously track 15-24 year olds across many countries because in many countries child labor is in fact prevalent.

    I don’t think you understand what “part-time” means. It literally means working a job for less than full time, and can even be a single hour per week.

    Nah, I understand what part-time means perfectly. And living in Canada I also know that it's very much not a single hour a week in practice.

    The point of a part-time job for youths is to give them an idea of what actually working is like.

    Weird how I didn't have to be subjected to this in USSR. I love how you're just justifying child labor here pretending like exploiting children is good for them actually. What a clown.

    I worked part-time during highschool, and I had more free time than I knew what to do with.

    Oh you mean your shitty society didn't provide you with any meaningful outlets, so you are thankful for having been exploited as a youth. You have Stockholm syndrome buddy.

    For the record, my parents grew up during the Iron Curtain under Soviet oppression.

    ah yes SoVieT OpPeRession of having guaranteed healthcare, jobs, education, and not having to worry whether you'd be able to retire in dignity. Not to mention kids actually getting to enjoy their childhood rather than being exploited like your dumb ass was.

    Go make a clown of yourself elsewhere.

  • I just can’t with people like you. If school is mandatory for 18 and under, and those stats exclude students, then the remaining demographic out of the 15 to 24 yr olds are… drum roll… youths from 19 to 24!

    Then it would just say 19-24 wouldn't it genius? The stats obviously track 15-24 year olds across many countries because in many countries child labor is in fact prevalent.

    I don’t think you understand what “part-time” means. It literally means working a job for less than full time, and can even be a single hour per week.

    Nah, I understand what part-time means perfectly. And living in Canada I also know that it's very much not a single hour a week in practice.

    The point of a part-time job for youths is to give them an idea of what actually working is like.

    Weird how I didn't have to be subjected to this in USSR. I love how you're just justifying child labor here pretending like exploiting children is good for them actually. What a clown.

    I worked part-time during highschool, and I had more free time than I knew what to do with.

    Oh you mean your shitty society didn't provide you with any meaningful outlets, so you are thankful for having been exploited as a youth. You have Stockholm syndrome buddy.

    For the record, my parents grew up during the Iron Curtain under Soviet oppression.

    ah yes SoVieT OpPeRession of having guaranteed healthcare, jobs, education, and not having to worry whether you'd be able to retire in dignity. Not to mention kids actually getting to enjoy their childhood rather than being exploited like your dumb ass was.

    Go make a clown of yourself elsewhere.

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    I had plenty of outlets. I would bet money that I did more things and went more places than any kid in the USSR did.

    sure buddy

    I’m still waiting for you to prove I was exploited.

    If you don't understand how child labor is exploitation what else is there to say

    No, tankie. I mean Soviet oppression

    I see I really hit a sore spot there. Always nice to see fash seething.


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