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Tech leaders say AI means less work - their staff say they work up to 90 hours a week

Technology
20 18 3
  • For years now, executives at companies that are pouring hundreds of billions of dollars a year into developing various artificial intelligence tools have insisted that the technology will ultimately mean people will spend less of their time working.

    An engineering director at Google said four years ago that AI would deliver a four-day work week by 2025.

    Earlier this year, and just one year after that engineering director's prediction, OpenAI took up the challenge, in a manner of speaking. It formally urged companies to start testing out a four-day work week (with no change in pay), claiming that AI will soon be able to speed up so much human labour that the corporate world should prepare itself.

    However, a former OpenAI technical employee who left the company last year told the BBC the firm never actually trialled the four-day work week it suggested others should try while they were there.

    Instead, the person described what was often a gruelling work culture marked by frequent "crisis meetings", working on weekends, and "super cut-throat" performance reviews that would see colleagues suddenly let go.

    "You go in on Saturday or Sunday just to catch up or make sure things aren't broken," the person said.

    As with all inventions, the 40 hour workweek lie remains while 60+ hour weeks continue. I do more work, get paid the same, and am expected to work even harder. The machine must grow

  • In my current project Copilot saved extreme amounts of work for knowledge transfer session planning and creating documentation, technical role description, interview questions for staffing, RAID notices, drafting complex emails, and so on.

    And did you get to go home early because of the saved time?

  • Know this without ambiguity, it will never be enough for them. The point is to always push you to broken and then replace you without remorse.

    it'll never be enough because they're only focused on themselves, like both red and blue magas do.

  • Oh they meant less work for them. Not for us peons, that would be silly.

    How do you get less work from zero work? Does it underflow and rolls back to maximum work?

  • For years now, executives at companies that are pouring hundreds of billions of dollars a year into developing various artificial intelligence tools have insisted that the technology will ultimately mean people will spend less of their time working.

    An engineering director at Google said four years ago that AI would deliver a four-day work week by 2025.

    Earlier this year, and just one year after that engineering director's prediction, OpenAI took up the challenge, in a manner of speaking. It formally urged companies to start testing out a four-day work week (with no change in pay), claiming that AI will soon be able to speed up so much human labour that the corporate world should prepare itself.

    However, a former OpenAI technical employee who left the company last year told the BBC the firm never actually trialled the four-day work week it suggested others should try while they were there.

    Instead, the person described what was often a gruelling work culture marked by frequent "crisis meetings", working on weekends, and "super cut-throat" performance reviews that would see colleagues suddenly let go.

    "You go in on Saturday or Sunday just to catch up or make sure things aren't broken," the person said.

    Increased productivity from better tooling has never equated to less working time. Increased productivity from better tooling always results in more working time, because now you can "produce more". The only exception is farm stuff for small producers. The big land owners can now use more land thanks to better tools.

  • How do you get less work from zero work? Does it underflow and rolls back to maximum work?

    No, they sabotage other's work. Which many top manager already do

  • And did you get to go home early because of the saved time?

    I work in home office, so I enjoyed the couch a lot.

  • For years now, executives at companies that are pouring hundreds of billions of dollars a year into developing various artificial intelligence tools have insisted that the technology will ultimately mean people will spend less of their time working.

    An engineering director at Google said four years ago that AI would deliver a four-day work week by 2025.

    Earlier this year, and just one year after that engineering director's prediction, OpenAI took up the challenge, in a manner of speaking. It formally urged companies to start testing out a four-day work week (with no change in pay), claiming that AI will soon be able to speed up so much human labour that the corporate world should prepare itself.

    However, a former OpenAI technical employee who left the company last year told the BBC the firm never actually trialled the four-day work week it suggested others should try while they were there.

    Instead, the person described what was often a gruelling work culture marked by frequent "crisis meetings", working on weekends, and "super cut-throat" performance reviews that would see colleagues suddenly let go.

    "You go in on Saturday or Sunday just to catch up or make sure things aren't broken," the person said.

    Tech leaders bros

  • For years now, executives at companies that are pouring hundreds of billions of dollars a year into developing various artificial intelligence tools have insisted that the technology will ultimately mean people will spend less of their time working.

    An engineering director at Google said four years ago that AI would deliver a four-day work week by 2025.

    Earlier this year, and just one year after that engineering director's prediction, OpenAI took up the challenge, in a manner of speaking. It formally urged companies to start testing out a four-day work week (with no change in pay), claiming that AI will soon be able to speed up so much human labour that the corporate world should prepare itself.

    However, a former OpenAI technical employee who left the company last year told the BBC the firm never actually trialled the four-day work week it suggested others should try while they were there.

    Instead, the person described what was often a gruelling work culture marked by frequent "crisis meetings", working on weekends, and "super cut-throat" performance reviews that would see colleagues suddenly let go.

    "You go in on Saturday or Sunday just to catch up or make sure things aren't broken," the person said.

    This just made me realize that after we fix our tax structure to tax capital gains and land more than labor we need to change the way the labor tax rate works. We shouldn't be taxing on total income in my opinion, we should be taxing a rate off of your average hourly income.

    So if you work in a factory and make $30 an hour and work 10 hrs overtime a week at 1.5 an hour that's 85,800, or $33 an hour. But if you work salaried for 100k and work 65 hours a week you make $29.58 an hour. The salaried in this example should be taxed less than the hourly. I am not sure what the new rates would look like, but both the hourly and salaried person would have a lower effective tax obligation after we fixed the first two things.

  • This just made me realize that after we fix our tax structure to tax capital gains and land more than labor we need to change the way the labor tax rate works. We shouldn't be taxing on total income in my opinion, we should be taxing a rate off of your average hourly income.

    So if you work in a factory and make $30 an hour and work 10 hrs overtime a week at 1.5 an hour that's 85,800, or $33 an hour. But if you work salaried for 100k and work 65 hours a week you make $29.58 an hour. The salaried in this example should be taxed less than the hourly. I am not sure what the new rates would look like, but both the hourly and salaried person would have a lower effective tax obligation after we fixed the first two things.

    That's fixing the symptoms, not the problem.

    You shouldn't be forced to work more than 40 hours to begin with.


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