@computersandblues @thisismissem

Half finished thoughts are the best!

And, I know I'm dipping into some choppy waters here, but I think "consent" relates to what content the server wants to share, and not consent of the "property/location owner."

I recognize there's potential for abuse (i.e. doxxing someone) but that exists outside of a mapping app, too.

But there's also cool use cases for non-consensual digital graffiti.. something in the spirit of:

Indigenous Artists Use AR to Rewrite the Narrative in the Met’s American Wing

Amplifier’s ENCODED is not intended as a protest but as a precise act of cultural negotiation that reclaims erased histories.

Observer (observer.com)

@computersandblues @thisismissem

But back to your original point, it could be interesting to roll up all of the notes about a particular POI, to say something meaningful about what's going on there.

That's probably out of scope for me right now, while I'm just learning how to make maps. But I'm making a note to research this some time down the road.

Fortunately, we have a lot of "closed source" research that we can lean on, then just cherry pick the best ideas and make them "open."

benpate@mastodon.social there's multiple levels of consent. If you create a post with me mentioned in it with my location, I should probably have to accept that post for me to be mentioned in it. Otherwise someone can see me out and about, and create a post without me knowing that gives other people my location.

Hence, to tag other people at a location, they should have to accept that tag:

• Allow anyone to tag me at locations (potentially unsafe)
• Allow my followers to tag me at locations
• Allow my following to tag me at locations
• Allow this specific collection of Actors to tag me at locations
• Don't allow anyone to tag me at locations.

This could be achieved through an interaction policy on the Actor (though that's not yet a thing? I think interaction policies in GTS are only on Notes/objects)

@benpate @yala
Great idea ! My first reaction is : why not integrate it in @mobilizon ? That should be useful at the same time for their normal calendar of events and for conversations about discoveries on their system.

This should integrate WITH @mobilizon very nicely. I'll need to verify, but Emissary should be able to index events in Mobilizon easily - if the server owner chooses. I think this is probably what you mean?

On a technology level, this uses a completely different technology and language that can't just be written into an existing app like Mobilizon.

Fortunately, the PROTOCOL matters, not the LANGUAGE, so we should be able to work together over ActivityPub.

@nelfan @yala @mobilizon

@thisismissem Yes, you're raising some important points that we should cover. And, it's easy to see the potential for someone to post harmful content on a map.

But I don't see it being any different from posting harmful content in any other medium they have. Witness the dude live tweeting celebrity plane locations.

Fundamentally, people *should* be able to talk about others behind their backs. Maps or not, if they post data they shouldn't, then it's probably an issue for server mods, yes?

@thisismissem

I read up on Interaction Policies. They're a great idea, but it looks like these are requests that only work if other servers enforce them.

I'm suspicious of things like this that can't be enforced beyond my own server because (as we've seen too many times) only the good guys will follow the rules, leaving the bad guys with an unfair advantage.

@benpate @yala @mobilizon
I think I understand the insisting point of "WITH". I guess it would be really nice. So, there would be two associated posts on two different servers, those two posts being linked by some sort of threads if I don't misunderstand.

@nelfan @yala @mobilizon

Exactly

And that's really the magic of the Fediverse and ActivityPub. Right now, you're posting on a server running GotoSocial, and I'm posting on a server running Mastodon, but our conversation is seamless.

Atlas work with Mobilizon in a similar way (though a slightly different mechanism). Think of the "map" in my demo as a search page - displaying ActivityPub posts from all sites that the admins choose to index.

@benpate great idea! I loved using Foursquare back in the day

@mlabowicz

Exactly. I’m still putting together features, and looking for input from the community on what it should look like.

So, what should it look like? Ratings? Rankings? Badges?

@benpate I enjoyed the "mayor of" aspect of foursquare which you could earn after checking into a location more frequently than others during a period of time. Ratings would also be a useful addition

@mlabowicz

Thanks! I’ll have to figure out how to get this done. Right now, #Emissary is pretty light on stats and analytics, but I can see how this would help make it fun for people to use