What PieFed blocks out of the box - and how to unblock it - PieFed

PieFed has a dizzying array of settings and options that instance admins can tweak. Most of them have obvious and sensible default values but some of those have been a bit controversial, especially to do with what gets blocked by default. In this post I will explain what those are and how you can set […]

PieFed (join.piefed.social)

During the initial setup process there is a series of messages printed on the screen: “Added banned instance xyz, added banned instance abc, etc” followed by “Manage banned instances at /admin/federation.” The list of initially defederated (banned) instances is:

‘anonib.al’, ‘lemmygrad.ml’, ‘gab.com’, ‘rqd2.net’, ‘exploding-heads.com’,
‘hexbear.net’, ‘hilariouschaos.com’,
‘threads.com’, ‘noauthority.social’, ‘pieville.net’, ‘links.hackliberty.org’,
‘poa.st’, ‘freespeechextremist.com’, ‘bae.st’, ‘nicecrew.digital’,
‘detroitriotcity.com’, ‘gregtech.eu’,
‘pawoo.net’, ‘shitposter.club’, ‘spinster.xyz’, ‘catgirl.life’, ‘gameliberty.club’,
‘yggdrasil.social’, ‘beefyboys.win’, ‘brighteon.social’, ‘cum.salon’, ‘wizard.casa’,
‘maga.place’, ‘lemmychan.org’

View related source code. As the message suggests, admins can go to the Federation part of the Admin area to change which instances you federate with at any time.

I mean technically not hard coded, but when it's the default it becomes the standard. Of course the biggest issue is it's only viable to admins not the users so

You aren't wrong, it's gone through many itterations from the initial block. Even now it's still the initial config hidden to users. Hell Grail is even saying it's still there but only idiots would keep it on. (ironic considering it's Rimu's default and piefed.socials setup)

Or just use Piefed.

You don’t have to respect anything or anyone, but if you’re going to post disrespectful things (like calling people “stains on the earth”) I’ll have to ban you.

Getting banned for opposing tankies is a badge of honor, go straight ahead, nazi sympathizer.

These are the things i could do without.

If someone knows how to code, helping with their favorite projects is greatly appreciated too.

Yes? And?

Just as with literally all federated social media, users are encouraged to find an instance that matches their values and preferred admin involvement, or to spin up their own instances.

Of course users will not have complete control of content moderation on their instance, that is literally impossible on so many levels. If you want complete control, create your own instance. Even then, it's not complete control because you can not force other instances to federate with you.

If there is anybody capable of configuring a non-default blocklist, it is the type of people that choose to host their own fediverse instance.

Ai slop enthousiasts

Factually true comment that Trump killed less Palestinians is now offensive to Blue MAGA. Literal genocide fanboyism.

Don't just say how much you love them. Donate to your instances monthly and make it easier for them to be sustainable.

A piefed.nullspace.lol admin has come along to call people “crybullies” and “deeply unserious”

Also no, I don’t literally think you get paid in a currency I made up on the spot, but I do think you play defence for your side and are biased as fuck to the point you spread literal misinformation about a feature rich fork.

And you’re right things such as trying to enforce vote limits on users without consulting people, trying to hide meme communities (196) via hard code is surely a libertarian move and not the one sided actions of a wannabe dictator.

A piefed.nullspace.lol admin and PieFed support worker has come along to call people “crybullies” and “deeply unserious”. Your DARVO isn’t going to work.

I don't think you know what DARVO means...

Also no, I don’t literally think you get paid in a currency I made up on the spot, but I do think you play defence for your side and are biased as fuck to the point you spread literal misinformation about a feature rich fork.

"Feature-rich" LMAO

And you’re right things such as trying to enforce vote limits on users without consulting people, trying to hide meme communities (196) via hard code is surely a libertarian move and not the one sided actions of a wannabe dictator.

Again, for those reading, this group of people says all of this without a drop of irony. They really are like this.

Danke!

I should use Friendica more (or, like, at all), but I'm lazy.

What about when one of the trolls is the dev of say piefed?

Who offers free code as FLOSS, so there's that. Life isn't always binary coded.

That particular part of the PieFed controversy was disproven, yet continually shared as misinformation nonetheless.

All of that kind of stuff is opt-in by the instance admins, nowhere close to hard-coded. Unlike the Tesseract situation. Also, Lemmy v1.0 will embedd a veto ability such that communities not acknowledged by Lemmy.ml will not be suggested to new instances - though this is opt-out as it can be configured from within the code, so also not hard-coded (though as opt-out rather than opt-in, is much closer to it).

There are plenty of reasons to not use PieFed, which is quite opinionated software, but hard-coded blocklists is not one of them. Like Lemmy, people just have a hate-on for the antifa dev, and like to smear the software with unwarranted accusations (weirdly instead of actually valid ones, which do exist, but perhaps those resonate less well somehow?).

Your choice of admin team is much more important than which software platform you use, especially if you use a third-party app like Voyager.

Actually I think it predated a good amount of that. Iirc PyLova was started much earlier than most people realize, stemming out of a frustration from wanting to contribute to the project but then Mia's contributions were reportedly taken by the main PieFed dev without seemingly proper acknowledgement. And then yes the PieFed drama caused additional attention to be paid to PyLova than previously.

PyLova hasn't done a whole awful lot yet in some respects, but especially some of the more recent inclusions may be absolute game-changers moving forward, especially the ability to support user shareable blocklists. That should go a long way towards retaining people coming here from Reddit who would otherwise flee this toxic shithole (well, some major parts of the Threadiverse are that way at least - certain highly notable politics communities in particular spring to mind, though after blocking this place can become much more chill! even if noticeably quieter...:-P). And PyLova un-does a lot of the minor annoyances that the main PieFed dev did not feel fit into his vision - e.g. a user can choose to display both upvotes and downvotes side by side, just like in Lemmy.

Meanwhile, PieFed is off chasing better compatibility with Mastodon. Some people want that, so it is a laudable goal, but then PyLova is focusing on improving the existing experience here within the Threadiverse, which also seems laudable to me?

However it got started, it is contributing to improving things, as software forks often do - that ability is part of what makes FLOSS so great!!