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GrapheneOS duress PIN could land a man in prison
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This is yesterday's news. Destroying evidence is a crime in a lot of jurisdictions. With that in mind, I don't understand how somebody who apparently uses Graphene OS didn't bring an empty burner when crossing one of the most notorious borders in the world.
Which isn't to say that the laws that require you to unlock your phone and that throw you in jail if you securely wipe it aren't hostile and inhumane.
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Supreme court has ruled that warrantless phone search at the border is bogus, but theyre too shitpantsed to stick with it
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This is yesterday's news. Destroying evidence is a crime in a lot of jurisdictions. With that in mind, I don't understand how somebody who apparently uses Graphene OS didn't bring an empty burner when crossing one of the most notorious borders in the world.
Which isn't to say that the laws that require you to unlock your phone and that throw you in jail if you securely wipe it aren't hostile and inhumane.
How are they supposed to know there was evidence on it? I'm allowed to delete my files, aren't I?
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This is yesterday's news. Destroying evidence is a crime in a lot of jurisdictions. With that in mind, I don't understand how somebody who apparently uses Graphene OS didn't bring an empty burner when crossing one of the most notorious borders in the world.
Which isn't to say that the laws that require you to unlock your phone and that throw you in jail if you securely wipe it aren't hostile and inhumane.
If I understand correctly they didn’t actually delete anything it just shreds the encryption keys so it can’t be accessed. Idk if the difference matters a whole lot though.
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If I understand correctly they didn’t actually delete anything it just shreds the encryption keys so it can’t be accessed. Idk if the difference matters a whole lot though.
Very interesting! I'd like to ask a lawyer how they think the courts would view that. The data is intact, just not decryptable.
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How are they supposed to know there was evidence on it? I'm allowed to delete my files, aren't I?
I'm no lawyer, but I think that's called circumstantial(ly improbable). Try convincing a jury of that. 🥲
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If I understand correctly they didn’t actually delete anything it just shreds the encryption keys so it can’t be accessed. Idk if the difference matters a whole lot though.
No it wipes the data from the phone
GrapheneOS provides users with the ability to set a duress PIN/Password that will irreversibly wipe the device (along with any installed eSIMs) once entered anywhere where the device credentials are requested
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this is what peak democracy
looks like, dont be fooled -
If I understand correctly they didn’t actually delete anything it just shreds the encryption keys so it can’t be accessed. Idk if the difference matters a whole lot though.
That is a distinction without a difference. Either way the once accessible data can no longer be accessed any longer.
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Very interesting! I'd like to ask a lawyer how they think the courts would view that. The data is intact, just not decryptable.
Sounds like we might find out how the courts will view it.
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Seems like what's needed is the ability to load an alternate profile or some kind of demo mode based on the pin. Something that looks normal but doesn't have any info you don't want others to see, without actually deleting anything.
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Name one thing that can't land you in prison in the US. I'll wait.
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How are they supposed to know there was evidence on it? I'm allowed to delete my files, aren't I?
Be careful not to swallow your spit. They may think you're swallowing a bomb and shoot you on the spot.
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Name one thing that can't land you in prison in the US. I'll wait.
For profit slave labor prisons are very lucrative I hear
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This is yesterday's news. Destroying evidence is a crime in a lot of jurisdictions. With that in mind, I don't understand how somebody who apparently uses Graphene OS didn't bring an empty burner when crossing one of the most notorious borders in the world.
Which isn't to say that the laws that require you to unlock your phone and that throw you in jail if you securely wipe it aren't hostile and inhumane.
Except that this person wasn't accused or even suspected of a crime.
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Sounds like we might find out how the courts will view it.
Stay strong
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Name one thing that can't land you in prison in the US. I'll wait.
Indirectly murdering hundreds of thousands of people in pursuit of profits.
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Indirectly murdering hundreds of thousands of people in pursuit of profits.
With the caveat that, if you don't achieve those profits, it will land you in jail.
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Seems like what's needed is the ability to load an alternate profile or some kind of demo mode based on the pin. Something that looks normal but doesn't have any info you don't want others to see, without actually deleting anything.
Alternately, a user profile that isn't displayed anywhere, but accessible only through a specific PIN, maybe. Not sure how you'd explain the storage space either option used, however.
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