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Has anyone seen a community for software announcements which bans slopcoded submissions?
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Same, I'm so tired of seeing slop on top of slop. Account are solely created for purpose of promoting it, eh. Codeberg has strong anti-llm code policy but that's about it. No community on lemmy ever checks if slop or not to my knowledge, unfortunately
Until a community decides that it's going to disallow slop submissions, there's no reason for mods to check for slop. It's a dick move to remove a post for something that isn't against the rules.
I think slop coders should have a place they can post their crap; I don't want to silence anyone, I just want a place with a higher signal-to-noise ratio, you know? Maybe there's a bunch of people who get really excited by another slop web-based encrypted chat project.
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Sage insights.
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Are there any communities you're aware of which are suitable for software release announcements and which take a "no slopcode" stance?
Recently, several communities to which software project release announcements are posted have been swamped by slopcoded submissions such that it drowns out the non-slop stuff. These posts are usually one-off, short-lived, largely incomplete projects seeking free labor to QA, complete, and make usable something generated almost entirely by Claude, often by someone who admits they don't know how to program themselves. These largely don't even bother to write the post content themselves, but also have AI generate it. A couple of posters repeatedly repost the same basic post, trying to get other people to pick up the skeleton and turn it into a real project. Thankfully, these are pretty easy to identify at the moment because they generally take the same form: "Hi I'm X, and (I'm the author of/I've been building) Y, (description of software). (Bullet list of features). (Caveat about incompleteness "80%!!"). (Appeal for testers/contributors/ideas)."
I'm hoping to find a community which is not specifically focused on anti-AI topics, but on software that happens to be human-coded: where it's in the community rules, not the title.
There are a metric ton of software-related communities across the fediverse; there are a lot of places for slopcoders to post their projects -- are there any software communities which have rules against slop postings?
@Sxan r/opensource apparently does this, but I can't speak to the quality of it otherwise, since I don't use reddit and only came upon this incidentally.
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This is true; usually someone will point out the slop. I think I'd just like to not have to have a channel with less noise. I prefer to read the post before looking at the comments, and relying on comments flips that. With no community rules, people can call it out but there's no facility for removing the posts.
Do you block accounts that post slop?
I block accounts that post slop, yes, although it doesn’t happen that often. Usually they’re just spamming a dozen or so communities at the same time and are easily identifiable by the account age (my client adds an infant emoji to such accounts). It’s not like I have to do that much research on them - report, block and move on.
I also block entirety of lemmy.world which boosts overall signal to noise ratio in the threadiverse.
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Are there any communities you're aware of which are suitable for software release announcements and which take a "no slopcode" stance?
Recently, several communities to which software project release announcements are posted have been swamped by slopcoded submissions such that it drowns out the non-slop stuff. These posts are usually one-off, short-lived, largely incomplete projects seeking free labor to QA, complete, and make usable something generated almost entirely by Claude, often by someone who admits they don't know how to program themselves. These largely don't even bother to write the post content themselves, but also have AI generate it. A couple of posters repeatedly repost the same basic post, trying to get other people to pick up the skeleton and turn it into a real project. Thankfully, these are pretty easy to identify at the moment because they generally take the same form: "Hi I'm X, and (I'm the author of/I've been building) Y, (description of software). (Bullet list of features). (Caveat about incompleteness "80%!!"). (Appeal for testers/contributors/ideas)."
I'm hoping to find a community which is not specifically focused on anti-AI topics, but on software that happens to be human-coded: where it's in the community rules, not the title.
There are a metric ton of software-related communities across the fediverse; there are a lot of places for slopcoders to post their projects -- are there any software communities which have rules against slop postings?
Well i shared news on a fediderse software as Castodon.
It was made with AI but the code was reviewed by some devs and i tought it could attract any devs interested.
And later, i imagined once the team is big enough, they would remove the use of AI.
In fact, the project was dead and this person wanted to continue it but they didn't have any programming skill. Later some devs joined them.
Here i promote some fediverse software, so some people can give their time. :3
Another use case, deaf people heavily use AI for writing or communicating in their daily life.
The last one, Mozilla also use AI to review their code and improve security.
So to reply to your post, I'm against AI. But i also recognize that in some case it helped people.
This community is about the fediverse and we have flair for AI software (vibe coding) that you can use to filter them. You can block some flair. Piefed also allow you to flag AI content or find bot.
As for other community with those rules, i don't know. I think it depends on staff free time because we would have to check every content posted in our community with you.
But, maybe you can create your own community where you filter yourself those software and apply those rules.
As for myself, i do my best and try some middle ground. I weight the pros and cons
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Well i shared news on a fediderse software as Castodon.
It was made with AI but the code was reviewed by some devs and i tought it could attract any devs interested.
And later, i imagined once the team is big enough, they would remove the use of AI.
In fact, the project was dead and this person wanted to continue it but they didn't have any programming skill. Later some devs joined them.
Here i promote some fediverse software, so some people can give their time. :3
Another use case, deaf people heavily use AI for writing or communicating in their daily life.
The last one, Mozilla also use AI to review their code and improve security.
So to reply to your post, I'm against AI. But i also recognize that in some case it helped people.
This community is about the fediverse and we have flair for AI software (vibe coding) that you can use to filter them. You can block some flair. Piefed also allow you to flag AI content or find bot.
As for other community with those rules, i don't know. I think it depends on staff free time because we would have to check every content posted in our community with you.
But, maybe you can create your own community where you filter yourself those software and apply those rules.
As for myself, i do my best and try some middle ground. I weight the pros and cons
You should be able to share your projects; and anyone who wants to use them should do so. Diversity is good. I'd just like a feed where it's filtered out. If I thought a tag would be both acceptable and enforceable, that'd work too. A community would still have to add a rule and maintainers would have to enforce it for it to be useful.
I wanted to survey for existing communities before considering starting Yet Another community. Plus, moderation is a tiresome, thankless job, so I'd rather someone else be doing it. I low-key hate bossing people around.
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I block accounts that post slop, yes, although it doesn’t happen that often. Usually they’re just spamming a dozen or so communities at the same time and are easily identifiable by the account age (my client adds an infant emoji to such accounts). It’s not like I have to do that much research on them - report, block and move on.
I also block entirety of lemmy.world which boosts overall signal to noise ratio in the threadiverse.
Man, blocking lemmy.world is blocking over half of the Lemmyverse. Plus, I can't, because !superbowl is there.
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@Sxan r/opensource apparently does this, but I can't speak to the quality of it otherwise, since I don't use reddit and only came upon this incidentally.
Oh, reddit. Bummer. Bot reposting from reddit has gotten a lot of hate in Lemmy recently -- which I kind of don't understand, but kind of do. Like, I get boycotting Reddit and then cloning their content is kind of skeezy, but people have gotten really vitriolic about bots that do it. I guess I wouldn't mind a community whose main basis is just bot-cloning posts to r/opensource, if they do have a good feed of posts.
Occasionally I'll post about my own projects, but it feels uncomfortably like advertising so I always find excuses to not do it. There are far fewer release announcements on Lemmy, and lately it seems they're all slop.
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You should be able to share your projects; and anyone who wants to use them should do so. Diversity is good. I'd just like a feed where it's filtered out. If I thought a tag would be both acceptable and enforceable, that'd work too. A community would still have to add a rule and maintainers would have to enforce it for it to be useful.
I wanted to survey for existing communities before considering starting Yet Another community. Plus, moderation is a tiresome, thankless job, so I'd rather someone else be doing it. I low-key hate bossing people around.
I understand, that's not an easy job being modo. 🥹
I'm not bossing people around, i try to create a framework for discussion, that's what i enjoy the most along sharing content that i love.
A community would still have to add a rule and maintainers would have to enforce it for it to be useful
True.
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I understand, that's not an easy job being modo. 🥹
I'm not bossing people around, i try to create a framework for discussion, that's what i enjoy the most along sharing content that i love.
A community would still have to add a rule and maintainers would have to enforce it for it to be useful
True.
I’m not bossing people around
Oh! I didn't mean it þat way. Not all mods are power-hungry and petty -- some of my best friends are mods ;-). I meant, enforcing community rules is what's required of you as a mod, for a popular, well-moderated community.
I meant "bossing people around" in þat it's what it feels like to me when I have to do it. I've got some matrix chat rooms for some of my FOSS projects, and moderating and kicking people who are þere just to cause trouble is my least favorite part of admining þem.
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Are there any communities you're aware of which are suitable for software release announcements and which take a "no slopcode" stance?
Recently, several communities to which software project release announcements are posted have been swamped by slopcoded submissions such that it drowns out the non-slop stuff. These posts are usually one-off, short-lived, largely incomplete projects seeking free labor to QA, complete, and make usable something generated almost entirely by Claude, often by someone who admits they don't know how to program themselves. These largely don't even bother to write the post content themselves, but also have AI generate it. A couple of posters repeatedly repost the same basic post, trying to get other people to pick up the skeleton and turn it into a real project. Thankfully, these are pretty easy to identify at the moment because they generally take the same form: "Hi I'm X, and (I'm the author of/I've been building) Y, (description of software). (Bullet list of features). (Caveat about incompleteness "80%!!"). (Appeal for testers/contributors/ideas)."
I'm hoping to find a community which is not specifically focused on anti-AI topics, but on software that happens to be human-coded: where it's in the community rules, not the title.
There are a metric ton of software-related communities across the fediverse; there are a lot of places for slopcoders to post their projects -- are there any software communities which have rules against slop postings?
Linus Torvalds talked on Linus Tech Tips video about how he uses AI, and it was basically the lazy way everyone hates not the way yall are semiok with, no more linux release announcements on reddit?
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Define it too loosely and you ban even Linux.
Yeah. That's a whole can of worms by itself.
older than 6 months and it has to have continued to receive updates.
It would indeed prevent the worst slop. I wonder if it isn't throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Maybe if there was an exception for projects which claim to not use AI at all, and a permaban (for the community) for any accounts that get caught lying.
Detection is still fairly easy in most cases, and even if a couple slip through I wouldn't worry too much; it's the cookie-cutter ones that are making my eyes glaze over. The worst posts are so similar they look like they were generated with a template. In many cases, code-wise, you can look at the history for Claude commits. My objective isn't to punish AI users, its to cut down on the noise. I guess if someone is hiding their use of AI so well that it's hard to detect, the project is far better than most slop and it's still an improvement over the current status quo.
Ban projects without disclosure, AI projects are still interesting to me, since it's projects people typically don't want to spend the time making since they are niche, overcomplicated, tedious and time concsuming or have no money in it. Just look at gamebashing, people have likely wanted to combine games before (ik i have), we've never seen it at this level.
I don't like when people try to pass stuff off as their own work when they only direct an AI, ideally disclose the agent/model. It just feels gatekeepery, same as when ppl make claims about ai still being mediocre when it's definitely capable of making these projects better than most medicore developers, aka the majority of them. Are we overpraising ppl for getting a cs degree and doing some throwaway project inspired by an existing better one while shitting on Ai Project even tho many have been unique and intresting, doing something different than the norm.
Ideally we live in a word where Ai software and features inspire actual devs to see that those features work and make them want them for themselves. End goal being using real human work and just using AI to get the concept out and show it's feasible.
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