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  • Today is announcement day 🔥

    Bonfire is shifting its centre of gravity: from social features to community tools. Four things ship today, and the whole story is here: bonfirenetworks.org/posts/bo...

    1. Bonfire for communities
    Groups and topics, community rules, decision-making (from quick polls through structured consensus to weighted score voting, where an objection can count for more than an approval), events, shared organisation profiles, announcements.

    A ready-to-use space you can then take apart: add what's missing, fork what almost fits, switch off what you don't need.

    2. Our first Mosaic case study
    Six months with Jacobin's German edition, building jacobin.social from the ground up: a home for 3,000+ readers, wired into their Ghost publication, in their language and their look and feel. Their readers crowdfunded the project, which included a reboot of the magazine and a new community space. Now every publisher can benefit. What one community funds, every community inherits. Details: bonfirenetworks.org/case-stu...

    3. A deep Ghost integration
    Keep publishing exactly as you do now, and Bonfire can become the home for everything that happens around the work: your archive imported, new articles followed, members and tiers synced, sign-in through Ghost, federated discussion under every piece. Details: bonfirenetworks.org/ghost/

    4. The Telling
    One script tag turns any web page into a federated conversation. Readers reply with an account they already have, on Bonfire, Mastodon, anywhere. The thread lives on your server, and you can take it with you. Details: bonfirenetworks.org/telling/

    Being straight with you: this is a 1.0 beta. Groups work within a server and don't federate yet. We're designing that in the open with the W3C groups task force, because we'd rather it work across the whole fediverse than ship a dialect only Bonfire speaks.

    Want to poke at it? Groups are live on the campground, our open test instance. Make an account and try it out: campground.bonfire.cafe

    Finally, we've rebuilt the website to reflect the new direction: bonfirenetworks.org/

    Now back to following up with crowdfunding backers to organise install parties, co-design workshops, and other rewards. Thank you for your patience 💛<span class="invisible"> <a class="hashtag" rel="tag ugc" href="https://bonfire.cafe/hashtag/fediverse">#fediverse</a> <a class="hashtag" rel="tag ugc" href="https://bonfire.cafe/hashtag/activitypub">#ActivityPub</a>
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  • So how should Opt-in work with R2R?

    Mondo tagspub relays r2r fediverse optin
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    julian@activitypub.spaceJ
    @oliviavespera@spacey.space why does a secondary relay need explicit permission from the source instance to have their content relayed? If the source content is public then there's no discussion to be had, there are no grey areas, the post is public. It sounds like you're trying to add in layers of privacy to a visibility scheme ("public") that does not have any.
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    evan@cosocial.caE
    @steve @reiver You have more faith in the compelling powers of MUST than I do.https://cosocial.ca/@evan/116403967622366259
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    julian@activitypub.spaceJ
    @k0e3@lemmy.ca forums are more constrained in scope in terms of discussion. This can mean a more tight-knit community of regulars, and the inherent development of a forum-wide culture at smaller scales. Reddit (and so, Lemmy, Piefed, etc.) are built to be more general purpose. Mastodon is the same. For example, my main is this account on activitypub.space. It is primarily a discussion forum around AP development, not much of anything else, but from that niche forum I can still participate here on the wider threadiverse.
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    macfrancM
    @team@blog.purewebhosting.nz @gwilymgj@mastodon.social Standardising Public Information Publishing I think you should discuss this with the @swf@socialwebfoundation.org group. The issue of standardization is one of the most delicate in the relationship between the fediverse and the mastosphere, and will likely be resolved in different ways based on the so-called "doocracy." It will be important for it to adhere as closely as possible to W3C standards and be conceived in simple terms. Some platforms like Friendica have already solved the formatting of georeferencing and event data. (cc @heluecht@pirati.ca is right?) Should an entity run it’s own presence much like they run their own website or email? It depends a lot on the type of organization. A nonprofit organization could simply choose to be hosted by a federated social network in its own country. A public institution could do the same, but first consider opening a proprietary instance, since, depending on the institution's importance, the traffic flow could become problematic. A private company, on the other hand, has the obligation to create its own instance. If I were to manage an organization's faith migration, I would make these assessments by evaluating the TOSs of the instances in my country and, if I found one suitable, I would agree on my inclusion in advance with the instance administrators. I also remember that careful management of a federated WordPress or Ghost server is already an interesting solution, just as a federated NodeBB forum allows you to wonderfully control the moderation of your audience of interested users. Possible disadvantages Here we must be realistic: using commercial social media for your organization's communication is NEVER perceived as a problem! It will be difficult to obtain the exact costs of managing a social media account, and the employees (or vendors) who manage an organization's social media account are resistant to change. My advice is to find out in advance whether the organization already uses automated publishing systems, whether these systems include at least the Mastodon API, and whether these systems include engagement measurement systems; If they don't use automatic publishing, you can find a system that helps them manage everything more easily. I may be unpopular, but an organization shouldn't be forced to do without commercial social media! Any organization's social media strategy should have three ethical obligations: Maintain a presence on the most popular commercial social media platforms that are consistent with its audience, to ensure maximum reach. Maintain a presence on an open-source social network that allows users to follow the organization and interact with it without being tracked, profiled, or having their data transferred to problematic countries, because this is a guarantee for its customers/users. Prioritize communication on the open social network, publishing content on the federated account earlier and more carefully, and possibly attempting to move communication to the federated account.
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    hiphopheaven@mastodon.socialH
    @darnell @alpacasncats @mosseri @threads @conno_r @pfefferle @mike @Gargron @ottman@minds.com @john@minds.com @dansup with the terrible marketing the fediverse has it's number ia impressive. Blueaky popularity is not suppriaing since it was created by jack dorsey

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