@_elena idrc if someone can see me blocking ICE. why is this a big deal for people outside of the US?

@_elena Agreed. Bsky is a much less interactive experience than here on Mastodon/Fediverse. I follow a couple of authors, a few sports sites, and check general news there. But yeah, it's mostly a "read only" environment if you aren't "somebody." I will note that those two authors do read and respond to replies.

I mostly consider Bluesky an "eMuskulated" Twitter and it seems to be replacing Twitter as a place mass media and "somebodies" go to post expecting that everyone is reading along.

@nazokiyoubinbou @u_urban @_elena some of the reasons aren't silly. There are simply blocks to a lot of people joining. Understanding a bit about what it even is, finding an instance, knowing you can't move your post history etc.
Instances randomly being shut down recently have also amplified the bad/hard to use name.
Sure it doesn't ultimately matter. But those are real issues for a lot of people, just because they aren't for you doesn't mean they're not there.

@bws @strght @_elena people like continuity, I think that's it really. And it's easy to set up, or at least easier than fedi.

@_elena feel free to use. Everything I do is public domain:) if I get a smile or a laugh I’ve achieved my goal.

@_elena This is also true about Mastodon*, but Mastodon actively tries to hide that fact from users and muddy the waters.

* It's technically hidden to users but not the admins of the instances involved, but if you're a gov agency, you're presumably on your own instance, as seems to be the custom here for the "big players."

@Saupreiss@pfalz.social @_elena@mastodon.social Hiding the toots from the blocked person is super dumb though. After all, they can simply see them in logged-out state, e.g. from an incognito window. Subway Tooter even has an explicit feature to do that (shows the account as ?@instance then).

The other actions - do they really need to be prevented on the local instance of the blocked person? If so, that's broken too - after all, the blocked person could simply run an instance with that code removed. From what I understand, this can only work well if the actions need to be approved (or blocked) by the blocking person.

Well, I guess that makes the entire feature pretty dumb... well, all the more reason to not use it and to just mute instead.

@nazokiyoubinbou @NatureMC @u_urban @_elena

"... most of Mastodon would end up blocking the entire instance with ICE on it..."

I knew I'd end up blocking .social eventually.

@sb .. would block a lot of wonderful people, too. @nazokiyoubinbou @u_urban @_elena

@_elena Bit too late for me, I'm already subscribed to the "all US official accounts" block list.

@fds public information on who people block feels like a way to build a Bullying As A Service (BaaS) solution.

Bots that find people that block someone, and then direct minions to attack. This week, people who block a billionaire TERF, next week people that block the ICE account.

With some OSINT thrown in, could maybe identify the people offline and target them there.

wizards@bastardsheep@aus.social

@MaximilianBlum @_elena

Fedi has the tools to deal with this, BlueSky doesn't.

Toxic instances already exist, and I agree that if fedi grows, more toxic instances will exist - it will become more difficult to update blocklists and whatnot - but at least Fedi gives us the tools to deal with this.

@_elena Yikes!