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An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."
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An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."
Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.
I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).
The safest bet is to mute (that info is private)
@_elena idrc if someone can see me blocking ICE. why is this a big deal for people outside of the US?
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I'm well aware that posting this info on the Fediverse seems like a pointless exercise, but it's to raise awareness and spread the word to people active in BOTH places.
I was never really active on #Bluesky and entirely stopped using it months ago but there's no point in posting this info there because I have zero reach. Or rather: 1100+ followers and 1-2 likes (at best!) and zero comments for any post. It's like I'm shadow-banned.
If you use it and enjoy it no judgement but please be safe!
@_elena Agreed. Bsky is a much less interactive experience than here on Mastodon/Fediverse. I follow a couple of authors, a few sports sites, and check general news there. But yeah, it's mostly a "read only" environment if you aren't "somebody." I will note that those two authors do read and respond to replies.
I mostly consider Bluesky an "eMuskulated" Twitter and it seems to be replacing Twitter as a place mass media and "somebodies" go to post expecting that everyone is reading along.
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@nazokiyoubinbou @u_urban @_elena some of the reasons aren't silly. There are simply blocks to a lot of people joining. Understanding a bit about what it even is, finding an instance, knowing you can't move your post history etc.
Instances randomly being shut down recently have also amplified the bad/hard to use name.
Sure it doesn't ultimately matter. But those are real issues for a lot of people, just because they aren't for you doesn't mean they're not there. -
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@_elena feel free to use. Everything I do is public domain:) if I get a smile or a laugh I’ve achieved my goal.
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An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."
Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.
I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).
The safest bet is to mute (that info is private)
@_elena This is also true about Mastodon*, but Mastodon actively tries to hide that fact from users and muddy the waters.
* It's technically hidden to users but not the admins of the instances involved, but if you're a gov agency, you're presumably on your own instance, as seems to be the custom here for the "big players."
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Right away. That instance needs it so that that user cannot see the toots or can reply to it, so of course there is little that could be done differently.
@Saupreiss@pfalz.social @_elena@mastodon.social Hiding the toots from the blocked person is super dumb though. After all, they can simply see them in logged-out state, e.g. from an incognito window. Subway Tooter even has an explicit feature to do that (shows the account as ?@instance then).
The other actions - do they really need to be prevented on the local instance of the blocked person? If so, that's broken too - after all, the blocked person could simply run an instance with that code removed. From what I understand, this can only work well if the actions need to be approved (or blocked) by the blocking person.
Well, I guess that makes the entire feature pretty dumb... well, all the more reason to not use it and to just mute instead. -
@nazokiyoubinbou @NatureMC @u_urban @_elena
"... most of Mastodon would end up blocking the entire instance with ICE on it..."
I knew I'd end up blocking .social eventually.
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@nazokiyoubinbou @NatureMC @u_urban @_elena
"... most of Mastodon would end up blocking the entire instance with ICE on it..."
I knew I'd end up blocking .social eventually.
@sb .. would block a lot of wonderful people, too. @nazokiyoubinbou @u_urban @_elena
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An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."
Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.
I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).
The safest bet is to mute (that info is private)
@_elena Bit too late for me, I'm already subscribed to the "all US official accounts" block list.
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@bastardsheep It’s always felt like a path to bullying people. Either by giving grief to people for who is in their block list or creating awfully named lists and putting people in it. In the past I’ve seen list names that feel like it’s named in such a way they hope the people in the list see it.
@fds public information on who people block feels like a way to build a Bullying As A Service (BaaS) solution.
Bots that find people that block someone, and then direct minions to attack. This week, people who block a billionaire TERF, next week people that block the ICE account.
With some OSINT thrown in, could maybe identify the people offline and target them there.
wizards@bastardsheep@aus.social
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Fedi has the tools to deal with this, BlueSky doesn't.
Toxic instances already exist, and I agree that if fedi grows, more toxic instances will exist - it will become more difficult to update blocklists and whatnot - but at least Fedi gives us the tools to deal with this.
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An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."
Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.
I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).
The safest bet is to mute (that info is private)
@_elena Yikes!
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