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e-ink has terrible refresh rates

Fun fact: it seems that it's not a limitation of the type of the display itself but a limitation from either the controller or the firmware of the display, someone on youtube managed to make an e-ink display to run at 60hHz
https://youtu.be/nHbA2-_qzH4

It doesn't look as good as an LED or OLED screen of course but it's good enough

I've actually seen that video before, and the main limitation is still the pixel transition time. It's something like 200ms, so any sort of motion will have heavy ghosting. It's definitely a huge improvement over most controllers though.

If all you do is read/look at static content, e-ink is great, and that's why it's used on all the e-readers. I wouldn't want to be taking a video call on one though.

Tandem oled screens are also starting to become more of a thing, and that improves the usability in direct sun. But I don't have any problem using my phone outside as it is. I'd rather just have a bigger battery than a worse looking screen for what I do.

If they’re expensive but worth it that’s fine. Graphene powered Motorola is the only device I’d ever consider switching back to Android for.

One thing I really dislike about the Mobile ecosystem is how much different each device is to each other.

Imagine owning a laptop and not being able to install linux without the manufacturer permission.

They really messed us up with how they created the phone architecture, so closed and restrictive.

This is exactly why I've waited to get a Graphene OS phone, Google can't be trusted.

9a for 300 bucks

And the battery life of that thing is excellent

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> even this one is way overkill for what I want in a phone. Why can’t there just be a low-spec one instead

Exactly this.

My solution is: dirt-cheap bargain-basement Chinese phones.

They do the job and you can get a lot for under £150.

My best buy was an Umidigi F2. Stunning device for £125. I have bought dinners that cost more than that.

*But* you'll never get an OS upgrade, they're unsupported by all the alternative OSes, and there is the everpresent risk of spyware.

For me, that's worth it, but I get that it's not for everyone and so I do not unequivocally recommend them.