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Implications (most good) of Oracle delaying payments for Jupiter stargate 2.45gw datacenter in NM.

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  • A datacenter this size is an absurdity to begin with. Using Grok 5 ambitions, this would support training a 62t parameter model. 12-15x larger than what Anthropic currently can train. This means 12-15x slower (before considering that no western cluster can hold a model this size for inference, and slowdown is well over 100x) and 12-15x (100x here too) more expensive. So the concept is completely worthless to begin with.

    Oracle's force majeure absolutely means the project is delayed (despite statements in article) because they are delaying payments because its delayed. Probably by 2 years, unless after mid terms, all of a sudden, permits get rush approved despite political candidate consensus against Oracle's BS.

    If a 2 year delay, Oracle should cancel Nvidia GPU order. With 50% likely price increase path, it would be a $150B order that costs $30B in interest over 2 years at bad Oracle credit rating, and another $45B minimum depreciation over 2 years. This total is more than Oracle's book value. This cancellation would be enough to ease significantly rampocalypse, and reverse Nvidia price increases.

    The shell SPV companies that own the datacenters are an absurd scam. $18B in losses from lenders are at stake if project gets cancelled, with smaller losses for delays. They were all stupid to lend the money at low interest rates, and all other future projects will have expensive financing, and be unfavourable. This end of stupid is end of uninvestable AI fraud bubble. Again, end of rampocalypse.

    Oracle is already a joke of stupidity in its AI pursuit. This makes it imppossible for it to ever raise more money for more stupidity. And so one of the first hyperscaler nvidia clients to tap out, as the start of domino chain.

  • A datacenter this size is an absurdity to begin with. Using Grok 5 ambitions, this would support training a 62t parameter model. 12-15x larger than what Anthropic currently can train. This means 12-15x slower (before considering that no western cluster can hold a model this size for inference, and slowdown is well over 100x) and 12-15x (100x here too) more expensive. So the concept is completely worthless to begin with.

    Oracle's force majeure absolutely means the project is delayed (despite statements in article) because they are delaying payments because its delayed. Probably by 2 years, unless after mid terms, all of a sudden, permits get rush approved despite political candidate consensus against Oracle's BS.

    If a 2 year delay, Oracle should cancel Nvidia GPU order. With 50% likely price increase path, it would be a $150B order that costs $30B in interest over 2 years at bad Oracle credit rating, and another $45B minimum depreciation over 2 years. This total is more than Oracle's book value. This cancellation would be enough to ease significantly rampocalypse, and reverse Nvidia price increases.

    The shell SPV companies that own the datacenters are an absurd scam. $18B in losses from lenders are at stake if project gets cancelled, with smaller losses for delays. They were all stupid to lend the money at low interest rates, and all other future projects will have expensive financing, and be unfavourable. This end of stupid is end of uninvestable AI fraud bubble. Again, end of rampocalypse.

    Oracle is already a joke of stupidity in its AI pursuit. This makes it imppossible for it to ever raise more money for more stupidity. And so one of the first hyperscaler nvidia clients to tap out, as the start of domino chain.

    also, the best way to save the permitting issues would be solar and batteries with Chinese tariff exemptions to meet the scale requirements. This would add to consumer electricity availability as this datacenter is close to El Paso, and NM city. Site is sunniest area in US with cheapest land costs.

  • A datacenter this size is an absurdity to begin with. Using Grok 5 ambitions, this would support training a 62t parameter model. 12-15x larger than what Anthropic currently can train. This means 12-15x slower (before considering that no western cluster can hold a model this size for inference, and slowdown is well over 100x) and 12-15x (100x here too) more expensive. So the concept is completely worthless to begin with.

    Oracle's force majeure absolutely means the project is delayed (despite statements in article) because they are delaying payments because its delayed. Probably by 2 years, unless after mid terms, all of a sudden, permits get rush approved despite political candidate consensus against Oracle's BS.

    If a 2 year delay, Oracle should cancel Nvidia GPU order. With 50% likely price increase path, it would be a $150B order that costs $30B in interest over 2 years at bad Oracle credit rating, and another $45B minimum depreciation over 2 years. This total is more than Oracle's book value. This cancellation would be enough to ease significantly rampocalypse, and reverse Nvidia price increases.

    The shell SPV companies that own the datacenters are an absurd scam. $18B in losses from lenders are at stake if project gets cancelled, with smaller losses for delays. They were all stupid to lend the money at low interest rates, and all other future projects will have expensive financing, and be unfavourable. This end of stupid is end of uninvestable AI fraud bubble. Again, end of rampocalypse.

    Oracle is already a joke of stupidity in its AI pursuit. This makes it imppossible for it to ever raise more money for more stupidity. And so one of the first hyperscaler nvidia clients to tap out, as the start of domino chain.

    Ed Zitron making some of the same points. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CbvhJO8Nfo

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    yogthos@lemmy.mlY
    Hmmm... well if you don't even understand the concept of facts, I suppose have a great day my man.
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    I remember a novel by a German author, Walter Schätzel (from 1957). It was about a Professor who fell into a crevasse and was thawed centuries later by an alien civilization that now populated the earth, because humanity had died out except for a few individuals. This alien civilization only had to worry about research, philosophy or art, because all products and services were produced and offered automatically and were freely available at any time, regardless of whether they were food, clothing, everyday items, medical treatment, living space or vehicles. No money and very rare crimes are treaten as mental illness because of this. Everybody has all what he need or want. Humorous and entertaining reading about the experiences of this professor in this civilization. https://www.amazon.de/Sie-kamen-einem-anderen-Stern/dp/B00208XDHM
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    I'm always amazed the internet hasn't been flooded with horrific AI porn of Musk and Altman in protest. Turn their own weapons against them.
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    Puts AI into murder drones within reach of millions of pyschopathic developers hell bent on killing innocents! Way to go Nvidia, I can't wait to have my loved ones assassinated by your AI chip.
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    geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlG
    If you look at the end of the video one runs around the corner. These Olympics are really just tech demos showing the researchers current progress. Normally we would not show incomplete demos like these as progress. The focus of the researchers is exclusively on the running part. A few years back these robots did not even finish. Now they are speedy.
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    There is no way around needing helium, but China will boost their own production in time and they have access to helium from Russia as well. Meanwhile, the reason they can move so fast is due to having a centrally planned system the west rejects. It's the same reason Russia is now outproducing all of NATO in terms of weapons and ammunition. The west is in no position to recreate the necessary supply chains. Rare earths alone is a perfect example. I wrote about the problem in detail here if you're interested. Even under the most aggressive diversification scenarios, China is expected to retain 80% of global refining capacity by 2040. And that's just one example. The west has very little leverage at this point. Also, as she correctly points out, China doesn't need to get to ASML levels to make these fabs useful. As long as they're better than the current ones, that already means China will be producing better domestic chips. And they're also innovating with architecture as well such as Huawei's tau law design which folds the chip and dramatically improves performance. All these things work together. Finally, China is aggressively pursuing alternative computing substrates and some are already starting to come online. This is a recent example. These kinds of things have the potential to leapfrog silicon chips entirely. There's nothing comparable happening in the west because you can't do these kinds of projects without massive amount of state funding and direction to sustain them until they become profitable on their own.
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    hating AI has become their entire identity for a lot of people

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