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  • I suggest all of you check out the Versia Protocol, it is very interesting and I feel it has a lot of potential to become a standarized protocol


    nelson@shrimp.starlightnet.workN
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    I suggest all of you check out the Versia Protocol, it is very interesting and I feel it has a lot of potential to become a standarized protocol.

    It is ActivityPub/Fediverse-styled, in the sense that it operates under the idea of small pockets of users and informations that sync up on eachothers' data through simple communication

    Some of the stuff I think it does better than ActivityPub:
    1. Enforces hard endpoints for data fetching and backfilling
    2. Enforces the ability for instances to change domains, as well as users to change handles
    3. Has a server-to-server communication protocol for error logging and handling protocol implementation issues
    4. Does not use JSON-LD, instead, opts in for a much simpler extension system that simply defines a set of values under an object
    5. Implementing it is a very streamlined and straightforward experience, where most of the features you want (such as emoji reactions, likes, replies, etc.) are already part of the core standards as optional extensions.
    6. Instead of having several ways to describe an object containing text and media, it simply has all of them under the same umbrella, with a couple of configurable options that serve mostly as tools for figuring out how to display an incoming "Note"
    7. Encryption and signing are enforced.

  • julian@activitypub.spaceJ
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    Hm. Any apps currently using it?

  • nelson@shrimp.starlightnet.workN
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    @julian Not yet, well, except for its flagship instance made by one of the engineers behind it! Though, I am not sure I should share it around as it is invite-only.

    I am currently implementing it in my next project, just to see how far this goes 😉
  • nelson@shrimp.starlightnet.workN
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    @julian Here's the official implementation in question:

    github.com/versia-pub/server
  • notizie@poliverso.orgN
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    @nelson A protocol's success is determined by two factors:
    1. The number of users: Activitypub took 10 years to build a significant user base.
    2. The ability to attract investors: AT Proto wouldn't exist if a "big tech bro" like Jack Dorsay hadn't sponsored it with the investment funds he was already in contact with. I'd like to point out, however, that Jack Dorsay wasn't as successful when he tried to sponsor the excellent Nostr protocol (which is extremely interesting, too).

    This is why the excellent Zot protocol, already used by Hubzilla (and which far surpasses both Activitypub and AT Proto), has never been successful and will never be. The spread of the Zot protocol has certainly not been helped by the fact that the only working product that supports it, Hubzilla, is as intuitive as the control console of a nuclear submarine and as ergonomic as a pair of underwear woven from dragon-scale chainmail.

    Now I wish Versia all the best and I also appreciate the fact that there is a bridge with Activitypub (even if I haven't figured out how it works), but in my opinion, the only way to have a chance is to create a software platform that is designed to develop an Android and iOS app that increases its reach among the public.


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