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    _elena@mastodon.social_
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    Dear Fedi friends,

    I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of , a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

    The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

    Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

  • ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA
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    @_elena Maybe do it in phases, grab the domains just in case, and then add sites if W builds any steam at all? But if there's French media attention there, that time might already have come.

  • ed@livellosegreto.itE
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    @_elena I think that we need more "why/how you should join the Fediverse" rather than "why you should not use platform X, Y, W".

    We (as in: the internet) spoke loudly about why not using certain type of softwares and platform and it didn't really made a substantial difference.

    I think we need to focus on bringing people (and make them stay) here rather than scare them about another software or platform.

  • jonasjrichter@mastodon.pnpde.socialJ
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    @_elena Hard to say if it's worth it at this point. Maybe it lands on its face right away, but if it does receive attention and lots of actual people create accounts there, having information about that site would be useful.
    Does it need to be its own website in that case? Not sure.

  • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE
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    @_elena in my opinion, it's a waste of energy. I'd rather focus bringing more politicians here

  • d1re_w0lf@mstdn.socialD
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    @_elena It’s ironic that the supposed European alternative to X and the answer to independence from U.S. tech is… using “American” ATProto instead of “European” Mastodon.

  • borisschapira@framapiaf.orgB
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    @_elena Press is often lazy. Coverage is often a matter of whether or not Press media received a ready-to-publish communicate. That's why most private orgs, with com teams, get covered while many communities and public-service associations are not.

  • joakimfors@mastodon.greenJ
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    @_elena Chaotic neutral: set up a masto/goto instance on a wsocial:ish domain 😈

  • gabboman@gabboman.xyzG
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    Host wafrns on them

    FUN FACT wafrn does fedi and bsky so you would be givin a better service than default W and you could argue it was a wafrn reference wich is older than W social

  • nopatience@swecyb.comN
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    @_elena No, please don't. Spend your beautiful energy and time on building and contributing to what we already have.

    Don't waste a second on deconstructing, arguing against stuff we don't control.

    Make more videos like you did before, the Mastodon / Fediverse intro video. It was beautiful and awesome.

    That's what you should do. Build, don't destroy.

  • _elena@mastodon.social_
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    @joakimfors OMG this is BRILLIANT! 😂

  • palin@livellosegreto.itP
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    @ed @_elena I politely ask why not both? A centralized system could be better if there are no drawbacks. We know that there no such thing as a free lunch, so we should explain that on top of fediverse advantages.

  • mensrea@freeradical.zoneM
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    @_elena they seem like great domains to start hosting fedi services. they go looking for euro-corp they find international co-op

  • nopatience@swecyb.comN
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    @_elena Unless you can do both at the same time... then do both 😉

  • mensrea@freeradical.zoneM
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    @_elena what's known as guerrilla marketing

  • vonblubba@livellosegreto.itV
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    @palin Europe is finally taking steps toward independence from US IT infrastructure. It’s likely too little, too late, but it’s still a move in the right direction. While I appreciate the effort, I suspect the Fediverse might have been a better solution. That said, I cynically believe this initiative will fail miserably without much outside interference 😅 @ed @_elena

  • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE
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    @_elena @nopatience I second that.

    A video addressing the nearly 60% of Members of the European Parliament still active on X would be beautiful.

    What would happen if prominent politicians had official, active accounts on the Fediverse? Public attention would certainly follow, as would journalists, who are obligated to track and report on political figures.

    People don't leave the Fediverse solely because of technical hurdles. Many arrive, look around, and simply don't find enough reasons to stay. Retention is not just a usability problem, but also a matter of social density and relevance. With a sufficiently large and visible group of active participants, the Fediverse could generate its own gravity and flourish beyond the tech-savvy community.

  • odd@mstdn.socialO
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    @_elena its probably better not to sabotage EU alternatives, but by grabbing domains the fediverse could be injected into the news cycle, if done with a coherent message to the media.

  • sturmsucht@mastodon.socialS
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    @d1re_w0lf @_elena

    EDIT: Sorry, I mixed up Wsocial with Wedium https://wedium.social

    New social networks are popping up everywhere these days.


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