#askFedi Does anybody know if there is an #ActivityPub software that *produces* multilingual objects leveraging the contentMap feature?

#askFedi Does anybody know if there is an #ActivityPub software that *produces* multilingual objects leveraging the contentMap feature?

oblomov@sociale.network I believe WordPress does (pfefferle@mastodon.social)

You can see it in action on notiz.blog and I think maybe the Vivaldi blog (they have Japanese contributors)

@julian @pfefferle

I should clarify that by multilingual I mean the *same* object being available in multiple languages, not separate objects (e.g. posts) for each language (so the contentMap would have to have multiple entires). I checked some samples and this doesn't seem to be used (at least): each post is a separate object.

The funfedi.dev support tables contain an example. Unfortunately, codeberg has hiccups and the site is thus unavailable.

From what I recall: No application tested by funfedi.dev supports the feature properly.

I'm also skeptical that proper support is possible. Just consider the text is available in German, English, and French and an image alt text is available in English and French. The person decides to display the post in German. How do you decide the language of the alt text?

The above is an example. Being able to resolve that question does not really resolve the question of how to go from multilingual object -> single language object to display, with all possible cases considered.

@helge thank you very much, that's an interesting project. You're absolutely right about the issues about a multilingual posts, but I don't think they are unsolvable, and even a provisionally inadequate solution would be a better starting point than no support For example: an indicator could be shown that other languages are available for a post, and allow switching to a different one (compare with the Edited feature), and users could choose the languages to show by priority, if missing, etc

#askFedi would you like to have the possibility to make multilingual posts, i.e. a *single* post/toot with the text available in multiple languages *at once*? Currently, you have to either do separate posts, or squeeze multiple languages within the character limit of your instance and only mark it for one of the languages (see e.g. https://sociale.network/@oblomov/110872023337803783 + https://sociale.network/@oblomov/114983566130691059).

#poll #internationalization #languages

Relevant Mastodon issues:

https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/11013
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/16692

TBH, I find the comments suggesting that “DeepL [or any other client-side translation service] is enough” to be appalling.