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Huawei says its new smartphone chip is entirely free of any US-made components
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Not directly related but isn't this the same company who was caught stealing ip from Samsung on how to manufacture memory?
I'm not sure that matters. And it's not like US hasn't done the same in many cases too. I had an American friend who legit claimed US invented pizza
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Oh good grief why are you always so combative? I'm well aware that it's clearly an accomplishment - but it's also their only option besides go out of business so I don't know what the US expected to happen.
Also erm... no, they aren't end-to-end domestically produced:
The South China Morning Post noted Huawei is reducing reliance on advanced foreign semiconductor equipment
More interestingly, while the Kirin is considerably less dependent on US or Western tech, it doesn't remove it from the equation entirely, and you still have to look closely at the bill of materials for receipts.
SMIC's process, however, still leverages ASML immersion scanners.
They're getting there, but if we go by what's in the article they don't have that capability yet.
Your original comment essentially read like a bad reddit style anti-china argument. Like, "these dumb chinese people would have never figured out to do this if the US didn't force them to! No need to give those asians any credit!"
It is now obvious you wrote it from the perspective of "duh, why is anyone in the west acting surprised? They literally have no other option besides dying"
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I don't see how you navigate life without understanding that the real world is far more complex than that.
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This company is currently embroiled in ip theft legal issues and it’s not looking good for them.
owww, poor companies are getting ips stolen from them. go help your corporate overlords!
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I can't wait until HarmonyOS becomes global.
we need something open, instead of moving from being dominated by one country to being dominated by another country
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we need something open, instead of moving from being dominated by one country to being dominated by another country
That's the spirit
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Love me some freedom!
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Your original comment essentially read like a bad reddit style anti-china argument. Like, "these dumb chinese people would have never figured out to do this if the US didn't force them to! No need to give those asians any credit!"
It is now obvious you wrote it from the perspective of "duh, why is anyone in the west acting surprised? They literally have no other option besides dying"
Dude is just your average brainwashed white Western spitting fabricated consent dubbed as "common sense"
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Only some or them are doing genocide and bombing children tho
Don't be a disingenuous prick
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good job huawei.
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I can't wait until HarmonyOS becomes global.
Isn't HarmonyOS closed? I'd rather not jump from a bad ship to a worse one
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Isn't HarmonyOS closed? I'd rather not jump from a bad ship to a worse one
to a worse one
This seems to be quite the leap. Elaborate?
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to a worse one
This seems to be quite the leap. Elaborate?
Closed = very bad
Android is open source, so you can at least make your fork and find a way to load it on phones that support bootloader unlocking, while harmony is closed so you cannot do that which is objectively worse
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Closed = very bad
Android is open source, so you can at least make your fork and find a way to load it on phones that support bootloader unlocking, while harmony is closed so you cannot do that which is objectively worse
That's reasonable thank you. I suppose I always took androids open source nature to be largely "theoretical"(?) given googles controlling stake and simply the nature of the mobile market where effectively every android device is running googles proprietary version. HarmonyOS is in reality in the same boat given it has OpenHarmony in parallel to HarmonyOS in the same way AOSP is parallel to Android.
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Isn't HarmonyOS closed? I'd rather not jump from a bad ship to a worse one
It is like Android, mixed source. Android is based on the open source AOSP project. HarmonyOS is based on the open source OpenHarmony project. Kaihong has released laptops that uses its own OpenHarmony distribution.
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we need something open, instead of moving from being dominated by one country to being dominated by another country
OpenHarmony does exist of which Huawei's HarmonyOS is but one distribution.
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It is like Android, mixed source. Android is based on the open source AOSP project. HarmonyOS is based on the open source OpenHarmony project. Kaihong has released laptops that uses its own OpenHarmony distribution.
Oh i see, that's nice then
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Thanks
I'm apparently 2 levels removed from whatever that meme is; no clue who that is for one
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Closed = very bad
Android is open source, so you can at least make your fork and find a way to load it on phones that support bootloader unlocking, while harmony is closed so you cannot do that which is objectively worse
As others have said harmony is setup exactly the same as android, open source OS on which a closed source customized flavor is built. It's exactly as bad or not bad as android is in this regard. The flavor being in control of a Chinese corporation instead of an American one is another issue.
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I think every international company and government is corrupt.
Unlike my domestic companies and government, whose motives are pure and only serve the best interests of the people.
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