The Internet goes on high alert after discovery of 8 compromised TLS certs
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Security personnel around the world are on high alert Tuesday following the discovery of eight TLS certificates with private keys so weak they could allow anyone to mint trusted browser and app credentials for any site on the Internet.
As of late morning Tuesday, browser makers and some major apps and programming languages had blocked all eight of the intermediate certificates. There are no reports of certificate transparency logs, which track the issuance of all browser-trusted certificates, showing the compromised keys being used maliciously. The threat remains far from over, however, because it will be hard and time-consuming to update other key parts of the Internet, such as Linux distributions and embedded and Internet of Things devices.
One word: bonkersThe eight intermediate certificates belong to India-based certificate authority eMudhra Limited. An informal advisory published to emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com over on Tuesday posted the message “We have a problem here – Wayne.” The words were digitally signed using the private key of one of the eMudhra certificates. With proof that the reporting party had control of the key, defenders scrambled because the same key could be used to sign unauthorized certificates that would be trusted by millions of servers worldwide.
“This will be a massive cleanup job, bigger than Heartbleed,” Filippo Valsorda, a cryptography engineer and a cryptography maintainer for the open source Go programming language, told Ars. “There will be a very, very long tail, IoT devices, Docker containers, forgotten Linux machines, unmaintained CLI tools that shipped their own copy of the roots (which is common in some ecosystems, like Python). Also, Linux distributions are still rolling out updates, some of them are not ready yet, and then system administrators will need to apply them to a lot of machines.”
Heartbleed is the name of a critical vulnerability in the OpenSSL cryptography library. In 2014, it came under mass exploitation. Exploits let many unaffiliated hackers decrypt TLS-protected exchanges between parties. They also recovered private TLS certificate keys, session cookies, and passwords. The attacks compromised thousands of servers, some belonging to large companies and government agencies around the world.
Recovery required a long series of steps that took years. Steps included patching OpenSSL on all affected devices, reissuing millions of TLS keys, revoking old certificates, rotating passwords and session tokens and updating embedded devices and other forgotten systems—something that was extremely time- and resource-intensive, especially at Internet scale.
“Every time you need a lot of different people in different contexts to do something, it will take a long time,” Valsorda explained. “This time it’s worse because there’s more contexts, more people, and more heterogeneity.”
The compromised eMudhra keys were defective at a level that’s challenging the imagination of many of the engineers studying the incident. A normal size for a NIST P-384 elliptic curve cryptography private key contains roughly 384 bits of entropy, a size allowing almost 2384, or a number with 116 digits, different possibilities. The private key sizes of the compromised keys ranged from 3 to 8 bits. Astonishingly, the private keys were 4, 56, 66, 115, 155, 156, 230, 237.
“That is extremely in the ‘this should not be possible’ category,” Valdorda said. “Maybe some horribly dangerous key generation interface has a ‘size’ parameter and they set it to 1 by mistake???”
Ben Cartwright-Cox, director of BGP.tools, said: “My guess is that it’s example code that accidentally leaked to production, but hard to know. But it’s bonkers that no one noticed.”
At this early stage, the most immediate threat appears to be for those using VPNs, especially in countries with governments likely to maliciously intercept traffic. There are likely many other cases for concern. End users largely have no recourse other than to hold off using many non-browser forms of TLS communication until they receive assurances updates are in place.
As noted, most browsers have already blocked the intermediate certificates. The exception appears to be Edge, which at the time this article went live was still connecting to 12 vulnerable hosts. In response to questions asking why and if the company has plans to do so, a Microsoft representative the company will be in touch if it has anything to “share.” Meanwhile, Signal, WhatsApp, Wireguard, and other apps that don’t rely on TLS for confidentiality aren’t affected. This page and the emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com site show apps known to be patched so far.
The incident is the latest to expose a fatal flaw in the TLS regimen. It’s only as strong as its weakest link, which in this case was eMudhra. Fortunately, transparency logs account for much of that failure, but this measure requires parties to actively monitor massive feeds and works only after unauthorized certificates have been issued. eMudhra representatives weren’t immediately available to answer questions.
One caveat: exploiting compromised certificates requires an active adversary-in-the-middle attack, meaning the attacker must act as a proxy between two TLS parties and receive encrypted traffic, decrypt it, reencrypt it, and send it to the other party. Such capabilities, in some cases, are usually limited to only the most well-resourced attackers. People with control of a local network—at a coffee shop, university, or other organization—face much less of a challenge.
The Internet goes on high alert after discovery of 8 compromised TLS certs
Intermediate certs allow anyone to mint web credentials for any Internet server.
Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
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Security personnel around the world are on high alert Tuesday following the discovery of eight TLS certificates with private keys so weak they could allow anyone to mint trusted browser and app credentials for any site on the Internet.
As of late morning Tuesday, browser makers and some major apps and programming languages had blocked all eight of the intermediate certificates. There are no reports of certificate transparency logs, which track the issuance of all browser-trusted certificates, showing the compromised keys being used maliciously. The threat remains far from over, however, because it will be hard and time-consuming to update other key parts of the Internet, such as Linux distributions and embedded and Internet of Things devices.
One word: bonkersThe eight intermediate certificates belong to India-based certificate authority eMudhra Limited. An informal advisory published to emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com over on Tuesday posted the message “We have a problem here – Wayne.” The words were digitally signed using the private key of one of the eMudhra certificates. With proof that the reporting party had control of the key, defenders scrambled because the same key could be used to sign unauthorized certificates that would be trusted by millions of servers worldwide.
“This will be a massive cleanup job, bigger than Heartbleed,” Filippo Valsorda, a cryptography engineer and a cryptography maintainer for the open source Go programming language, told Ars. “There will be a very, very long tail, IoT devices, Docker containers, forgotten Linux machines, unmaintained CLI tools that shipped their own copy of the roots (which is common in some ecosystems, like Python). Also, Linux distributions are still rolling out updates, some of them are not ready yet, and then system administrators will need to apply them to a lot of machines.”
Heartbleed is the name of a critical vulnerability in the OpenSSL cryptography library. In 2014, it came under mass exploitation. Exploits let many unaffiliated hackers decrypt TLS-protected exchanges between parties. They also recovered private TLS certificate keys, session cookies, and passwords. The attacks compromised thousands of servers, some belonging to large companies and government agencies around the world.
Recovery required a long series of steps that took years. Steps included patching OpenSSL on all affected devices, reissuing millions of TLS keys, revoking old certificates, rotating passwords and session tokens and updating embedded devices and other forgotten systems—something that was extremely time- and resource-intensive, especially at Internet scale.
“Every time you need a lot of different people in different contexts to do something, it will take a long time,” Valsorda explained. “This time it’s worse because there’s more contexts, more people, and more heterogeneity.”
The compromised eMudhra keys were defective at a level that’s challenging the imagination of many of the engineers studying the incident. A normal size for a NIST P-384 elliptic curve cryptography private key contains roughly 384 bits of entropy, a size allowing almost 2384, or a number with 116 digits, different possibilities. The private key sizes of the compromised keys ranged from 3 to 8 bits. Astonishingly, the private keys were 4, 56, 66, 115, 155, 156, 230, 237.
“That is extremely in the ‘this should not be possible’ category,” Valdorda said. “Maybe some horribly dangerous key generation interface has a ‘size’ parameter and they set it to 1 by mistake???”
Ben Cartwright-Cox, director of BGP.tools, said: “My guess is that it’s example code that accidentally leaked to production, but hard to know. But it’s bonkers that no one noticed.”
At this early stage, the most immediate threat appears to be for those using VPNs, especially in countries with governments likely to maliciously intercept traffic. There are likely many other cases for concern. End users largely have no recourse other than to hold off using many non-browser forms of TLS communication until they receive assurances updates are in place.
As noted, most browsers have already blocked the intermediate certificates. The exception appears to be Edge, which at the time this article went live was still connecting to 12 vulnerable hosts. In response to questions asking why and if the company has plans to do so, a Microsoft representative the company will be in touch if it has anything to “share.” Meanwhile, Signal, WhatsApp, Wireguard, and other apps that don’t rely on TLS for confidentiality aren’t affected. This page and the emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com site show apps known to be patched so far.
The incident is the latest to expose a fatal flaw in the TLS regimen. It’s only as strong as its weakest link, which in this case was eMudhra. Fortunately, transparency logs account for much of that failure, but this measure requires parties to actively monitor massive feeds and works only after unauthorized certificates have been issued. eMudhra representatives weren’t immediately available to answer questions.
One caveat: exploiting compromised certificates requires an active adversary-in-the-middle attack, meaning the attacker must act as a proxy between two TLS parties and receive encrypted traffic, decrypt it, reencrypt it, and send it to the other party. Such capabilities, in some cases, are usually limited to only the most well-resourced attackers. People with control of a local network—at a coffee shop, university, or other organization—face much less of a challenge.
The Internet goes on high alert after discovery of 8 compromised TLS certs
Intermediate certs allow anyone to mint web credentials for any Internet server.
Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
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Security personnel around the world are on high alert Tuesday following the discovery of eight TLS certificates with private keys so weak they could allow anyone to mint trusted browser and app credentials for any site on the Internet.
As of late morning Tuesday, browser makers and some major apps and programming languages had blocked all eight of the intermediate certificates. There are no reports of certificate transparency logs, which track the issuance of all browser-trusted certificates, showing the compromised keys being used maliciously. The threat remains far from over, however, because it will be hard and time-consuming to update other key parts of the Internet, such as Linux distributions and embedded and Internet of Things devices.
One word: bonkersThe eight intermediate certificates belong to India-based certificate authority eMudhra Limited. An informal advisory published to emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com over on Tuesday posted the message “We have a problem here – Wayne.” The words were digitally signed using the private key of one of the eMudhra certificates. With proof that the reporting party had control of the key, defenders scrambled because the same key could be used to sign unauthorized certificates that would be trusted by millions of servers worldwide.
“This will be a massive cleanup job, bigger than Heartbleed,” Filippo Valsorda, a cryptography engineer and a cryptography maintainer for the open source Go programming language, told Ars. “There will be a very, very long tail, IoT devices, Docker containers, forgotten Linux machines, unmaintained CLI tools that shipped their own copy of the roots (which is common in some ecosystems, like Python). Also, Linux distributions are still rolling out updates, some of them are not ready yet, and then system administrators will need to apply them to a lot of machines.”
Heartbleed is the name of a critical vulnerability in the OpenSSL cryptography library. In 2014, it came under mass exploitation. Exploits let many unaffiliated hackers decrypt TLS-protected exchanges between parties. They also recovered private TLS certificate keys, session cookies, and passwords. The attacks compromised thousands of servers, some belonging to large companies and government agencies around the world.
Recovery required a long series of steps that took years. Steps included patching OpenSSL on all affected devices, reissuing millions of TLS keys, revoking old certificates, rotating passwords and session tokens and updating embedded devices and other forgotten systems—something that was extremely time- and resource-intensive, especially at Internet scale.
“Every time you need a lot of different people in different contexts to do something, it will take a long time,” Valsorda explained. “This time it’s worse because there’s more contexts, more people, and more heterogeneity.”
The compromised eMudhra keys were defective at a level that’s challenging the imagination of many of the engineers studying the incident. A normal size for a NIST P-384 elliptic curve cryptography private key contains roughly 384 bits of entropy, a size allowing almost 2384, or a number with 116 digits, different possibilities. The private key sizes of the compromised keys ranged from 3 to 8 bits. Astonishingly, the private keys were 4, 56, 66, 115, 155, 156, 230, 237.
“That is extremely in the ‘this should not be possible’ category,” Valdorda said. “Maybe some horribly dangerous key generation interface has a ‘size’ parameter and they set it to 1 by mistake???”
Ben Cartwright-Cox, director of BGP.tools, said: “My guess is that it’s example code that accidentally leaked to production, but hard to know. But it’s bonkers that no one noticed.”
At this early stage, the most immediate threat appears to be for those using VPNs, especially in countries with governments likely to maliciously intercept traffic. There are likely many other cases for concern. End users largely have no recourse other than to hold off using many non-browser forms of TLS communication until they receive assurances updates are in place.
As noted, most browsers have already blocked the intermediate certificates. The exception appears to be Edge, which at the time this article went live was still connecting to 12 vulnerable hosts. In response to questions asking why and if the company has plans to do so, a Microsoft representative the company will be in touch if it has anything to “share.” Meanwhile, Signal, WhatsApp, Wireguard, and other apps that don’t rely on TLS for confidentiality aren’t affected. This page and the emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com site show apps known to be patched so far.
The incident is the latest to expose a fatal flaw in the TLS regimen. It’s only as strong as its weakest link, which in this case was eMudhra. Fortunately, transparency logs account for much of that failure, but this measure requires parties to actively monitor massive feeds and works only after unauthorized certificates have been issued. eMudhra representatives weren’t immediately available to answer questions.
One caveat: exploiting compromised certificates requires an active adversary-in-the-middle attack, meaning the attacker must act as a proxy between two TLS parties and receive encrypted traffic, decrypt it, reencrypt it, and send it to the other party. Such capabilities, in some cases, are usually limited to only the most well-resourced attackers. People with control of a local network—at a coffee shop, university, or other organization—face much less of a challenge.
The Internet goes on high alert after discovery of 8 compromised TLS certs
Intermediate certs allow anyone to mint web credentials for any Internet server.
Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
when i heard the news a few hours ago that "there is a TLS CA out there whose private key is the number 4" i wasn't sure whether i should burst out laughing or sobbing
you can check if your browser is vulnerable at https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ btw
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when i heard the news a few hours ago that "there is a TLS CA out there whose private key is the number 4" i wasn't sure whether i should burst out laughing or sobbing
you can check if your browser is vulnerable at https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ btw
Firefox (nightly and regular) and duckduckgo is vulnerable on my phone.
Brave and chrome are not.I use ff so o hope they clean it up fast
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when i heard the news a few hours ago that "there is a TLS CA out there whose private key is the number 4" i wasn't sure whether i should burst out laughing or sobbing
you can check if your browser is vulnerable at https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ btw

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Firefox (nightly and regular) and duckduckgo is vulnerable on my phone.
Brave and chrome are not.I use ff so o hope they clean it up fast
Weird, FF is fine on mine
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Firefox (nightly and regular) and duckduckgo is vulnerable on my phone.
Brave and chrome are not.I use ff so o hope they clean it up fast
Firefox showed all green on my phone.
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Security personnel around the world are on high alert Tuesday following the discovery of eight TLS certificates with private keys so weak they could allow anyone to mint trusted browser and app credentials for any site on the Internet.
As of late morning Tuesday, browser makers and some major apps and programming languages had blocked all eight of the intermediate certificates. There are no reports of certificate transparency logs, which track the issuance of all browser-trusted certificates, showing the compromised keys being used maliciously. The threat remains far from over, however, because it will be hard and time-consuming to update other key parts of the Internet, such as Linux distributions and embedded and Internet of Things devices.
One word: bonkersThe eight intermediate certificates belong to India-based certificate authority eMudhra Limited. An informal advisory published to emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com over on Tuesday posted the message “We have a problem here – Wayne.” The words were digitally signed using the private key of one of the eMudhra certificates. With proof that the reporting party had control of the key, defenders scrambled because the same key could be used to sign unauthorized certificates that would be trusted by millions of servers worldwide.
“This will be a massive cleanup job, bigger than Heartbleed,” Filippo Valsorda, a cryptography engineer and a cryptography maintainer for the open source Go programming language, told Ars. “There will be a very, very long tail, IoT devices, Docker containers, forgotten Linux machines, unmaintained CLI tools that shipped their own copy of the roots (which is common in some ecosystems, like Python). Also, Linux distributions are still rolling out updates, some of them are not ready yet, and then system administrators will need to apply them to a lot of machines.”
Heartbleed is the name of a critical vulnerability in the OpenSSL cryptography library. In 2014, it came under mass exploitation. Exploits let many unaffiliated hackers decrypt TLS-protected exchanges between parties. They also recovered private TLS certificate keys, session cookies, and passwords. The attacks compromised thousands of servers, some belonging to large companies and government agencies around the world.
Recovery required a long series of steps that took years. Steps included patching OpenSSL on all affected devices, reissuing millions of TLS keys, revoking old certificates, rotating passwords and session tokens and updating embedded devices and other forgotten systems—something that was extremely time- and resource-intensive, especially at Internet scale.
“Every time you need a lot of different people in different contexts to do something, it will take a long time,” Valsorda explained. “This time it’s worse because there’s more contexts, more people, and more heterogeneity.”
The compromised eMudhra keys were defective at a level that’s challenging the imagination of many of the engineers studying the incident. A normal size for a NIST P-384 elliptic curve cryptography private key contains roughly 384 bits of entropy, a size allowing almost 2384, or a number with 116 digits, different possibilities. The private key sizes of the compromised keys ranged from 3 to 8 bits. Astonishingly, the private keys were 4, 56, 66, 115, 155, 156, 230, 237.
“That is extremely in the ‘this should not be possible’ category,” Valdorda said. “Maybe some horribly dangerous key generation interface has a ‘size’ parameter and they set it to 1 by mistake???”
Ben Cartwright-Cox, director of BGP.tools, said: “My guess is that it’s example code that accidentally leaked to production, but hard to know. But it’s bonkers that no one noticed.”
At this early stage, the most immediate threat appears to be for those using VPNs, especially in countries with governments likely to maliciously intercept traffic. There are likely many other cases for concern. End users largely have no recourse other than to hold off using many non-browser forms of TLS communication until they receive assurances updates are in place.
As noted, most browsers have already blocked the intermediate certificates. The exception appears to be Edge, which at the time this article went live was still connecting to 12 vulnerable hosts. In response to questions asking why and if the company has plans to do so, a Microsoft representative the company will be in touch if it has anything to “share.” Meanwhile, Signal, WhatsApp, Wireguard, and other apps that don’t rely on TLS for confidentiality aren’t affected. This page and the emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com site show apps known to be patched so far.
The incident is the latest to expose a fatal flaw in the TLS regimen. It’s only as strong as its weakest link, which in this case was eMudhra. Fortunately, transparency logs account for much of that failure, but this measure requires parties to actively monitor massive feeds and works only after unauthorized certificates have been issued. eMudhra representatives weren’t immediately available to answer questions.
One caveat: exploiting compromised certificates requires an active adversary-in-the-middle attack, meaning the attacker must act as a proxy between two TLS parties and receive encrypted traffic, decrypt it, reencrypt it, and send it to the other party. Such capabilities, in some cases, are usually limited to only the most well-resourced attackers. People with control of a local network—at a coffee shop, university, or other organization—face much less of a challenge.
The Internet goes on high alert after discovery of 8 compromised TLS certs
Intermediate certs allow anyone to mint web credentials for any Internet server.
Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
Can someone please explain to Grandpa Erinaceus (me), what I should do in response to this? Is it just browsers and VPNs or other things as well? Maybe as in like 1) Don't panic, 2) Update everything, 3) etc
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Firefox showed all green on my phone.
Red for me, last update was the 19th with no newer update available.
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Wow, both links gave me the same number! What are the chances!
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Can someone please explain to Grandpa Erinaceus (me), what I should do in response to this? Is it just browsers and VPNs or other things as well? Maybe as in like 1) Don't panic, 2) Update everything, 3) etc
- Don't panic
- Hit this with your browser to see if it needs an update https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ if there are no updates that fix your browser, change browsers for a bit. (most mainstream browsers are already fixed)
- Update your things frequently, but you should really be doing that anyway. at the rate they're finding security issues with AI every other app has some critical patch waiting.
The is lots of thing that can get hit. A lot of things having to do with hosting sites and deploying software to servers. A lot of the infrastructure India relies upon.
TBH, from an non-technical end user, there's not a lot you need to do but wait it out and update. Even if your VPN was signed with one, they'd have a hell of a time doing anything with it. The primary idea is they can generate keys your browser trusts, so they mess with your DNS (non trivial) and point your bank portal to their site for you, you enter your bank creds, they have em. But if youre browser is safe, that's not going to happen.
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Can someone please explain to Grandpa Erinaceus (me), what I should do in response to this? Is it just browsers and VPNs or other things as well? Maybe as in like 1) Don't panic, 2) Update everything, 3) etc
For the laymen: update operating systems, browsers, and apps. And avoid doing sensitive stuff over Wifi networks other than your own (or from people or organisations that you fully trust, and the network must be password protected). Once this mess is cleaned up, the latter will be safe again. All you need to do for the cleanup is updating everything.
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Red for me, last update was the 19th with no newer update available.
Strange. Are you on Android or iOS?
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Red for me, last update was the 19th with no newer update available.
I had to update firefox two times in a row. Second update didn't show up until I searched for firefox in Play Store
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I had to update firefox two times in a row. Second update didn't show up until I searched for firefox in Play Store
I had the same problem and I fixed it like this as well
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Security personnel around the world are on high alert Tuesday following the discovery of eight TLS certificates with private keys so weak they could allow anyone to mint trusted browser and app credentials for any site on the Internet.
As of late morning Tuesday, browser makers and some major apps and programming languages had blocked all eight of the intermediate certificates. There are no reports of certificate transparency logs, which track the issuance of all browser-trusted certificates, showing the compromised keys being used maliciously. The threat remains far from over, however, because it will be hard and time-consuming to update other key parts of the Internet, such as Linux distributions and embedded and Internet of Things devices.
One word: bonkersThe eight intermediate certificates belong to India-based certificate authority eMudhra Limited. An informal advisory published to emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com over on Tuesday posted the message “We have a problem here – Wayne.” The words were digitally signed using the private key of one of the eMudhra certificates. With proof that the reporting party had control of the key, defenders scrambled because the same key could be used to sign unauthorized certificates that would be trusted by millions of servers worldwide.
“This will be a massive cleanup job, bigger than Heartbleed,” Filippo Valsorda, a cryptography engineer and a cryptography maintainer for the open source Go programming language, told Ars. “There will be a very, very long tail, IoT devices, Docker containers, forgotten Linux machines, unmaintained CLI tools that shipped their own copy of the roots (which is common in some ecosystems, like Python). Also, Linux distributions are still rolling out updates, some of them are not ready yet, and then system administrators will need to apply them to a lot of machines.”
Heartbleed is the name of a critical vulnerability in the OpenSSL cryptography library. In 2014, it came under mass exploitation. Exploits let many unaffiliated hackers decrypt TLS-protected exchanges between parties. They also recovered private TLS certificate keys, session cookies, and passwords. The attacks compromised thousands of servers, some belonging to large companies and government agencies around the world.
Recovery required a long series of steps that took years. Steps included patching OpenSSL on all affected devices, reissuing millions of TLS keys, revoking old certificates, rotating passwords and session tokens and updating embedded devices and other forgotten systems—something that was extremely time- and resource-intensive, especially at Internet scale.
“Every time you need a lot of different people in different contexts to do something, it will take a long time,” Valsorda explained. “This time it’s worse because there’s more contexts, more people, and more heterogeneity.”
The compromised eMudhra keys were defective at a level that’s challenging the imagination of many of the engineers studying the incident. A normal size for a NIST P-384 elliptic curve cryptography private key contains roughly 384 bits of entropy, a size allowing almost 2384, or a number with 116 digits, different possibilities. The private key sizes of the compromised keys ranged from 3 to 8 bits. Astonishingly, the private keys were 4, 56, 66, 115, 155, 156, 230, 237.
“That is extremely in the ‘this should not be possible’ category,” Valdorda said. “Maybe some horribly dangerous key generation interface has a ‘size’ parameter and they set it to 1 by mistake???”
Ben Cartwright-Cox, director of BGP.tools, said: “My guess is that it’s example code that accidentally leaked to production, but hard to know. But it’s bonkers that no one noticed.”
At this early stage, the most immediate threat appears to be for those using VPNs, especially in countries with governments likely to maliciously intercept traffic. There are likely many other cases for concern. End users largely have no recourse other than to hold off using many non-browser forms of TLS communication until they receive assurances updates are in place.
As noted, most browsers have already blocked the intermediate certificates. The exception appears to be Edge, which at the time this article went live was still connecting to 12 vulnerable hosts. In response to questions asking why and if the company has plans to do so, a Microsoft representative the company will be in touch if it has anything to “share.” Meanwhile, Signal, WhatsApp, Wireguard, and other apps that don’t rely on TLS for confidentiality aren’t affected. This page and the emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com site show apps known to be patched so far.
The incident is the latest to expose a fatal flaw in the TLS regimen. It’s only as strong as its weakest link, which in this case was eMudhra. Fortunately, transparency logs account for much of that failure, but this measure requires parties to actively monitor massive feeds and works only after unauthorized certificates have been issued. eMudhra representatives weren’t immediately available to answer questions.
One caveat: exploiting compromised certificates requires an active adversary-in-the-middle attack, meaning the attacker must act as a proxy between two TLS parties and receive encrypted traffic, decrypt it, reencrypt it, and send it to the other party. Such capabilities, in some cases, are usually limited to only the most well-resourced attackers. People with control of a local network—at a coffee shop, university, or other organization—face much less of a challenge.
The Internet goes on high alert after discovery of 8 compromised TLS certs
Intermediate certs allow anyone to mint web credentials for any Internet server.
Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
The private key sizes of the compromised keys ranged from 3 to 8 bits. Astonishingly, the private keys were 4, 56, 66, 115, 155, 156, 230, 237.
This is why the entire system of "just trust this random company, bro" certificate exchanges is broken at a foundational level.
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Red for me, last update was the 19th with no newer update available.
Firefox updates certificate revocations without requiring an update of the app itself.
/cc @Ohh@lemmy.ml
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The private key sizes of the compromised keys ranged from 3 to 8 bits. Astonishingly, the private keys were 4, 56, 66, 115, 155, 156, 230, 237.
This is why the entire system of "just trust this random company, bro" certificate exchanges is broken at a foundational level.
But what's the alternative besides addresses like 2gzyxa5ihm7nsggfxnu52rck2vv4rvmdlkiu3zzui5du4xyclen53wid.onion?
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Oh, yea? Where is the comic on my favorite tech topic: furry femboys?
Randall has been ignoring my letters on the subject for nearly three years.
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Security personnel around the world are on high alert Tuesday following the discovery of eight TLS certificates with private keys so weak they could allow anyone to mint trusted browser and app credentials for any site on the Internet.
As of late morning Tuesday, browser makers and some major apps and programming languages had blocked all eight of the intermediate certificates. There are no reports of certificate transparency logs, which track the issuance of all browser-trusted certificates, showing the compromised keys being used maliciously. The threat remains far from over, however, because it will be hard and time-consuming to update other key parts of the Internet, such as Linux distributions and embedded and Internet of Things devices.
One word: bonkersThe eight intermediate certificates belong to India-based certificate authority eMudhra Limited. An informal advisory published to emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com over on Tuesday posted the message “We have a problem here – Wayne.” The words were digitally signed using the private key of one of the eMudhra certificates. With proof that the reporting party had control of the key, defenders scrambled because the same key could be used to sign unauthorized certificates that would be trusted by millions of servers worldwide.
“This will be a massive cleanup job, bigger than Heartbleed,” Filippo Valsorda, a cryptography engineer and a cryptography maintainer for the open source Go programming language, told Ars. “There will be a very, very long tail, IoT devices, Docker containers, forgotten Linux machines, unmaintained CLI tools that shipped their own copy of the roots (which is common in some ecosystems, like Python). Also, Linux distributions are still rolling out updates, some of them are not ready yet, and then system administrators will need to apply them to a lot of machines.”
Heartbleed is the name of a critical vulnerability in the OpenSSL cryptography library. In 2014, it came under mass exploitation. Exploits let many unaffiliated hackers decrypt TLS-protected exchanges between parties. They also recovered private TLS certificate keys, session cookies, and passwords. The attacks compromised thousands of servers, some belonging to large companies and government agencies around the world.
Recovery required a long series of steps that took years. Steps included patching OpenSSL on all affected devices, reissuing millions of TLS keys, revoking old certificates, rotating passwords and session tokens and updating embedded devices and other forgotten systems—something that was extremely time- and resource-intensive, especially at Internet scale.
“Every time you need a lot of different people in different contexts to do something, it will take a long time,” Valsorda explained. “This time it’s worse because there’s more contexts, more people, and more heterogeneity.”
The compromised eMudhra keys were defective at a level that’s challenging the imagination of many of the engineers studying the incident. A normal size for a NIST P-384 elliptic curve cryptography private key contains roughly 384 bits of entropy, a size allowing almost 2384, or a number with 116 digits, different possibilities. The private key sizes of the compromised keys ranged from 3 to 8 bits. Astonishingly, the private keys were 4, 56, 66, 115, 155, 156, 230, 237.
“That is extremely in the ‘this should not be possible’ category,” Valdorda said. “Maybe some horribly dangerous key generation interface has a ‘size’ parameter and they set it to 1 by mistake???”
Ben Cartwright-Cox, director of BGP.tools, said: “My guess is that it’s example code that accidentally leaked to production, but hard to know. But it’s bonkers that no one noticed.”
At this early stage, the most immediate threat appears to be for those using VPNs, especially in countries with governments likely to maliciously intercept traffic. There are likely many other cases for concern. End users largely have no recourse other than to hold off using many non-browser forms of TLS communication until they receive assurances updates are in place.
As noted, most browsers have already blocked the intermediate certificates. The exception appears to be Edge, which at the time this article went live was still connecting to 12 vulnerable hosts. In response to questions asking why and if the company has plans to do so, a Microsoft representative the company will be in touch if it has anything to “share.” Meanwhile, Signal, WhatsApp, Wireguard, and other apps that don’t rely on TLS for confidentiality aren’t affected. This page and the emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com site show apps known to be patched so far.
The incident is the latest to expose a fatal flaw in the TLS regimen. It’s only as strong as its weakest link, which in this case was eMudhra. Fortunately, transparency logs account for much of that failure, but this measure requires parties to actively monitor massive feeds and works only after unauthorized certificates have been issued. eMudhra representatives weren’t immediately available to answer questions.
One caveat: exploiting compromised certificates requires an active adversary-in-the-middle attack, meaning the attacker must act as a proxy between two TLS parties and receive encrypted traffic, decrypt it, reencrypt it, and send it to the other party. Such capabilities, in some cases, are usually limited to only the most well-resourced attackers. People with control of a local network—at a coffee shop, university, or other organization—face much less of a challenge.
The Internet goes on high alert after discovery of 8 compromised TLS certs
Intermediate certs allow anyone to mint web credentials for any Internet server.
Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
it will be hard and time-consuming to update other key parts of the Internet, such as embedded and Internet of Things devices.
This is really bad, since many of them can't be updated, or are not supported any more with updates. Considering things like power inverters and battery controls, this can be used to cause real damage.
Interestingly, the EU Cyber Resiliency Act is coming into force, which precisely requires companies selling into the EU to provide updates.
On the other hand, since many user-hostile apps can now have their communication intercepted with standard man-in-the-middle approaches, this provides some pretty interesting research opportunities for privacy specialists and enthusiasts which are interested in reading the communication.
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