If you need security I would recommend that you overcome your predispositions and either get an affordable phone that is supported by graphene (a pixel) or an iphone.

If you do not need security then no worries, but it would be a shame to end up in a bad situation because you felt it was a bridge too far to use a phone from a particular company.

this. Also, safety concerns. Global south. Robberies and larcenies. I can't just have a $800 brick on me all the time. I can barely replace the $150 one when it gets stolen or breaks. Unfortunately I am forced to participate in this smartphone system, and I remember when the most expensive phone was $300.

If it's not preinstalled, I'm not buying it because there is a risk of injecting a virus along with its installation

i don't mind using a google phone, i just want to do everything in my power not to help google -- both directly by giving them money for a phone and indirectly by helping keep the resale value high.

the only threat model have come as a result of the us federal government and the local police. even w graphene, i'm hopelessy outclassed by the former and lineage has proven itself is good enough for the latter for less well funded police departments, but it's unclear about bigger ones.

i would prefer graphene, but the only viable way is to do it w a used pixel and they're both more expensive than the $150 brand new phones that i've been using thus far and it's also silly to disregard the extensive history of bad luck i've had with used phones.

You should look closer at fed/police capabilities. Only graphene and ios consistently defeat graykey or cellebrite.

Even small departments have these capabilities or can get them on loan from bigger ones.

If that is truly something you’re worried about you should weigh your exposure to them against how much you want to not help Google (or apple).

Google or Apple won’t notice if you do or don’t buy a phone that’s their brand. You will notice if the police are able to look through your device.

People who put their principles above their own safety can be easily put in situations where they’re in danger.

Why would you download the Graphene image from a place that might have viruses, instead of the official site?

During that time you will have stock Android on your phone, which is Google, such an evil company. You can't be sure that you won't get any virus

Malware isn't the same as viruses. Anyway, just don't log in to anything on it until you can wipe and install Graphene. That will fix the issue.

It hasn't been a thing direct from phone manufacturers. It's just been people flashing phones and reselling them.

What's the difference to the consumer?

Still, I wouldn't trust it

and not just any flagship -- it's ultra high priced folding one.

edit: i was wrong, it's a regular phone

How would they guarantee the device hasn't been tampered with? Sure you could use Auditor, but still…

It's the Signature 27 I believe. Still expensive, just not a foldable.

Are we sure that's it? I thought we weren't getting a GOS-compatible phone until next year, but the 27 is apparently expected to launch in November.

Fairly certain, haven't seen full confirmation yet but the chipset supports it, along with GOS' confirmation that it isn't a foldable a while back. Unless Motorola has an entirely new SKU for GOS this seems like it.

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Fairly certain, haven't seen full confirmation yet but the chipset supports it, along with GOS' confirmation that it isn't a foldable a while back. Unless Motorola has an entirely new SKU for GOS this seems like it.

Good to know. I'll have to keep an eye out then. I gotta admit, I was hoping out hope for a headphone jack and expandable storage, but I knew that was unlikely.