@sl007 I agree. To me, ATproto/atmosphere will always be an attempt to coopt a successful grassroots movement that aims to take control of our social media away from tech companies. And they seem to be quite successful.
Still, seeing efforts like Blacksky and Northsky does give me hope that the control can be maybe wrestled back.
@jcrabapple Blacksky recently managed to create their own appview, which was the last missing piece for full independence from Bluesky, from what I understand.
As for Northsky, --
"yes, Northsky will have it's own Apps / AppView as part of Phase 2 of development."
*simple answer as in what is “production ready for the average person to use” @transrights.northsky.social, @eurosky.social are there future plans to host your own AppView? I know right now it’s PDS hosting which is still important!
Bluesky Social (bsky.app)
(No word from Eurosky in the same thread.)
@stefan Just imagine if every Fedi admin in Europe would start spamming the media with “we’re building a European alternative to X”.
It would be silly, but still more true than these clowns.
@stefan @uastronomer it seems like an awful lot of up front work and maintenance to stay "independent".
@slothrop Ha, maybe they should, though!
@jcrabapple Yeah, I don't know how this is all going to look long-term, given how expensive it supposedly is to run the full infrastructure.
Blacksky has raised some money, but they currently have fewer users on their PDS than the Forkiverse server.
Northsky has much less than that.
Here, if you want to dig through the data: https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/data/
@stefan right?
RIGHT??!
@stefan If you read carefully, the article provides hints on why they do want to create another one:
„The initiative to create the social media platform W is supported by an advisory board and former ministers and business representatives, primarily from Sweden.“
In other words: There‘s no big money to be made w/ Mastodon and there’s no place for „former ministers“ and others to use it to look „important“ in any way either.
// @briankrebs
@the Ah, let's hope not!
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