@juergen I got it. You advocate for W.

@juergen @hannes99 I agree with you Juergen.

@juergen wenn du deinen Account von einer Platform ohne ID-Check zu einer mit ID-Check frei umziehen könntest, wäre der ID-Check nichtig

@hannes99 Nein, denn Außenstehende wissen damit, dass die Accounts, die sich auf wsocial befinden, keine Fake Accounts sind, was besonders bei der Frage, ob eine Quelle authentisch ist, relevant wird. @juergen

@zotheca Du kannst mich gerne aus der Unterhaltung rausnehmen. @hannes99 sind wohl die Argumente ausgegangen und hatte mich geblockt. Damit sehe ich auch nicht mehr auf welche Nachricht du antwortest.

@zotheca Du kannst mich gerne aus der Unterhaltung rausnehmen. @hannes99 sind wohl die Argumente ausgegangen und hatte mich geblockt. Damit sehe ich auch nicht mehr auf welche Nachricht du antwortest.

@_elena

This was great, thanks!

And maybe it's because I'm old, but I would have gladly read a much longer article shining light into the dark corners of W.

@ikuturso @petitcoeur we will see tomorrow

@_elena

Thank you, this kind of work is so important and sadly underappreciated.

The difficulty for a lot of people (like me!) is not really understanding the tech we're using. So we end up trusting whatever we're told.

Hopefully, articles like this will gradually educate people so they understand how to make their choices align with their principles.

@_elena Doing the Lord's Work (TM) -- awesome.

Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

#OpenWashing

@_elena it’s a terrible name anyway. Double u doesn’t roll off the tongue

@hannes99 @ikuturso @petitcoeur I heard through the grapevines (very trusted open web insider) that W social will host its own PDS, relay and AppView... but will use Bluesky's moderation at the beginning. So not fully independent after all...

As far as I know, Eurosky for now only has a PDS (and not the relay or AppView) but I could be wrong

@_elena it’s a terrible name anyway. Double u doesn’t roll off the tongue

Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

#OpenWashing

@clarkiestar doppia vù social in Italian - yikes

@clarkiestar a more apt name would have been Y social. As in "why" would you do this? 🤭

@_elena @clarkiestar their CEO even pronounced it Double U Social herself, today in TV
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rTLAEbS-fkc (in the original German audio track, but there's also an English one).

She said she hopes to reach 100k users by end of this year and one million next year. Apparently they are aware of their niche position, while being connected to the larger Bluesky (but without "verified" accounts). My question is, how do they intend to earn money, being explicitly commercial, by selling ads&data?

@hannes99 @clarkiestar yes they're planning to introduce ads https://inv.nadeko.net/hQye2P45jHE?t=3 [05:48]

Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

#OpenWashing