@hannes99

"You advocate for W."

No, he corrected your false statements. The way you spread misinformation makes the Fediverse unattractive to outsiders. No one needs a platform where misinformation is spread.

@juergen

@kkdk @juergen

Thank you for believing in the value of accurate information.

@hannes99 Nein, denn Außenstehende wissen damit, dass die Accounts, die sich auf wsocial befinden, keine Fake Accounts sind, was besonders bei der Frage, ob eine Quelle authentisch ist, relevant wird. @juergen

@zotheca Du kannst mich gerne aus der Unterhaltung rausnehmen. @hannes99 sind wohl die Argumente ausgegangen und hatte mich geblockt. Damit sehe ich auch nicht mehr auf welche Nachricht du antwortest.

Dein zotheca hat mich heute direkt geblockt, direkt nachdem er in einem anderen Thread eine Lüge verbreitet und mir Schimpfwörter an den Hals geworfen hat.

Diesen Reply hier sah ich gar nicht, bzw. erst jetzt. Du bist blockiert, weil ich Fanboyism satt bin, was ich dir auch klar vermittelt hatte. Mit "WSocial" solle man "fair" (meint offenbar nachsichtig) sein, während "WSocial" die Existenz des Fediverse leugnete

@juergen Kein Problem

Ich glaube es ist auch alles gesagt worden... danke für deine Mühe, die Dinge im rechten Licht zu sehen.

@d2718 part 2 is coming... give me a week or so

@hannes99 @ikuturso @petitcoeur I heard through the grapevines (very trusted open web insider) that W social will host its own PDS, relay and AppView... but will use Bluesky's moderation at the beginning. So not fully independent after all...

As far as I know, Eurosky for now only has a PDS (and not the relay or AppView) but I could be wrong

@MarkChristopherson thank you so much Mark! My next deep dive will be into ATproto's #OpenWashing – even I had trouble understanding things, but now the picture is becoming much clearer...

@jzb thanks

@_elena it’s a terrible name anyway. Double u doesn’t roll off the tongue

@clarkiestar a more apt name would have been Y social. As in "why" would you do this? 🤭

@_elena Eurosky only having a PDS is correct, you can see what they have and are working on here: https://eurosky.tech/build/

@hannes99 @petitcoeur

@clarkiestar doppia vù social in Italian - yikes

@_elena I need to read this for real.

I was excited about trying out a new platform.

@_elena @clarkiestar their CEO even pronounced it Double U Social herself, today in TV
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rTLAEbS-fkc (in the original German audio track, but there's also an English one).

She said she hopes to reach 100k users by end of this year and one million next year. Apparently they are aware of their niche position, while being connected to the larger Bluesky (but without "verified" accounts). My question is, how do they intend to earn money, being explicitly commercial, by selling ads&data?

@_elena B Social (be social!) – but not for them

@clarkiestar

@hannes99 @clarkiestar yes they're planning to introduce ads https://inv.nadeko.net/hQye2P45jHE?t=3 [05:48]

@_elena so ads in exchange with "no bots, verified humans only" – but how do they want to exclude bots that come from Bluesky or Eurosky? And does Mastodon have an actual problem with bots (I don't think it has, rarely seen one)?

@clarkiestar

@_elena OF COURSE they based it off of ATProto instead of using ActivityPub, because AT is "we want it to look open but instead be lock-in"...