<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[How does this downvote federate to my instance when the instance of the comm the post is on doesn't allow downvotes?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">So my understanding is that non-local communities receive interactions from other instances, then the host instance relays those interactions to all subscribed instances.</p>
<p dir="auto">It's also my understanding that when an instance disables downvoting, it also doesn't relay downvotes onward.</p>
<p dir="auto">So how do I see this?</p>
<p dir="auto">This is the scenario:</p>
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<li>A <a href="http://hexbear.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">hexbear.net</a> user posts to a <a href="http://hexbear.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">hexbear.net</a> community [downvotes disabled], which gets relayed to all subscribed instances like mine (thelemmy.club) and mander.xyz, etc.</li>
<li>A mander.xyz user sees it and downvotes it, which is sent to Hexbear</li>
<li>Hexbear receives the downvote and discards it (or at least, I always assumed so)</li>
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<p dir="auto">If it had been one of the local users of thelemmy.club I could understand seeing it, as it would be recorded in our local database. But how am I seeing a foreign downvote on a Hexbear community?</p>


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<p dir="auto">Disabling downvotes doesn't actually prevent items being downvoted, it just hides them from those that don't want to see it.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Disabling donvotes in the instance setting does prevent them being recorded on that instance. You can see the <a href="https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/release/v0.19/crates/apub/src/activities/voting/vote.rs#L75" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">code here</a>.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://feddit.uk/comment/27298224</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://feddit.uk/comment/27298224</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[flamingos@feddit.uk]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 04:36:09 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to How does this downvote federate to my instance when the instance of the comm the post is on doesn't allow downvotes? on Fri, 04 Sep 2026 04:31:09 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I don't think so, unless something has changed.</p>
<p dir="auto">See:</p>
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Reject federated downvotes if downvotes are disabled (fixes #2124) (#… · LemmyNet/lemmy@f8fb3b4
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]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://thelemmy.club/comment/28825943</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://thelemmy.club/comment/28825943</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bdonvr@thelemmy.club]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 04:31:09 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to How does this downvote federate to my instance when the instance of the comm the post is on doesn't allow downvotes? on Fri, 04 Sep 2026 04:19:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I don't think that's true, just because I'm pretty sure even users that aren't explicitly subscribed still see the downvotes. I could be wrong <img src="https://citiverse.it/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f937.png?v=dd1bb523659" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--shrug" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="🤷" alt="🤷" /><img src="https://citiverse.it/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f3fb.png?v=dd1bb523659" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--skin-tone-2" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="🏻" alt="🏻" /></p>
<p dir="auto">Either way, the data is still there and is passed around to those that choose to see it. Disabling downvotes doesn't actually prevent items being downvoted, it just hides them from those that don't want to see it.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ca/comment/25171954</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ca/comment/25171954</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[darkassassin07@lemmy.ca]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 04:19:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to How does this downvote federate to my instance when the instance of the comm the post is on doesn't allow downvotes? on Fri, 04 Sep 2026 03:52:56 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p dir="auto">track downvotes from outside instances</p>
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<p dir="auto">No, Lemmy just forwards the downvote to the community's subscribers, so other instances receive them. The downvote is not written to the db on instances with it disabled.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://feddit.uk/comment/27297768</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://feddit.uk/comment/27297768</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[flamingos@feddit.uk]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 03:52:56 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to How does this downvote federate to my instance when the instance of the comm the post is on doesn't allow downvotes? on Fri, 04 Sep 2026 03:26:08 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">When downvotes are disabled on an instance; they're just not displayed to that instances users. Nor is the downvote button displayed (so those users can't downvote).</p>
<p dir="auto">The instance will still receive and track downvotes from outside instances; showing the data to other instances that don't hide it. The data is still there, it's just that the instance admins chose to not display them to their own users.</p>
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