@_elena Being outside the US and having no intentions to ever go there, I *have* blocked them.

@_elena You have friends here.

@_elena and maybe sometimes we also need to judge people using fascist platforms.

@_elena Good advice. I do the same here. That way it is a private personal choice.

@_elena At least for me, I just don't want to see their lies and bias. Having them on a block list does that. It stops them from polluting my feed.

Anyone who thinks that stops the US Government from reading your feed, emails, etc. hasn't read Snowdon.

@_elena
Why tf does it show who blocks a user? Is that a standard feature of bsky?

@lazysupper @_elena I don't really know but it makes sense based on the decentralized nature of the protocol. The block v. mute must be similar to here in that if they're muted I just don't see anything by them but if I block they can't see me either.

To do that in a decentralized system you'd have to get every server that shows your stuff to not show it to them. To do that you have to tell the server that you want that done. This is going to be public info because you want all servers.

@u_urban personally, i'm in a better neighborhood already (fedi), but sadly a large number of artists/makers/etc are now solely on bluesky (or are on other awful sites like Instagram).

It's partially sunk cost fallacy, because i'd rather not lose out on following these folks, but also how am I supposed to "force their hand" to move...

I have no financial connection to staying on Bluesky, but a social one (same with Instagram, you won't get nearly as much info on local events if you're not on there.....)

Change is hard idk sorry for the ramt

@canleaf@mastodon.social @_elena@mastodon.social There is definitely some CDU here, but I actually like what that person writes (and it's definitely not 100% CDU mainstream).

@NatureMC@mastodon.online @stux@mstdn.social @_elena@mastodon.social That's because such a login wall can't work anyway. If one is evil, one can just have a second account - one to write and reply, and one just to read with. You'll never know about that second account, so blocking won't help at all.

@jessienab

Thank you, your repeat is welcome!

One thing doesn't fit to everyone.

Main thing is, to be concious about moving in dangerous territorry and as far as possible, avoid it.

#UnplugTrump is a long way to go, but time is running!

@Saupreiss@pfalz.social @_elena@mastodon.social BTW: is it relayed to the instance right away, or only when the blocked person attempts to reply or otherwise use a feature that is to be blocked?

Either way, blocks are harmful specifically because they tell the person they're blocked. Which is why I strongly prefer mutes instead.

@bastardsheep @_elena Block by its nature cannot be private. It has an easily testable outcome.

Frankly, for a dedicated individual, block on mastodon is no different from mute with a ritual. From what I can find (without checking code), mastodon’s implementation ignores ActivityPub recommendation on not sharing block activities.

The difference here is in magnitude. Mastodon doesn’t share the list contents with the whole wild world. Only with the one you really don’t care to share it with.

@bastardsheep @_elena And immediate self-correction, it doesn’t violate requirement, but a recommendation:

> SHOULD NOT - This phrase, or the phrase "NOT RECOMMENDED" mean that there may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances when the particular behavior is acceptable or even useful, but the full implications should be understood and the case carefully weighed before implementing any behavior described with this label.

@divVerent

Right away. That instance needs it so that that user cannot see the toots or can reply to it, so of course there is little that could be done differently.

@_elena

Thank you!

@_elena @mayintoronto I deleted BlueSky last Sept it not worth

@_elena
Ok. Makes sense, I guess. It's good to know the risks.

PS: I remember the days when 4Chan was just silly crap.

There is one thing that Bluesky has and the Fediverse still hasn't fully implemented: shared block lists are still not supported natively by ActivityPub and require external, fragmented implementations. Bluesky has account labeling services that can work on a per-account or per-post basis, and shared lists that can be used as either starter packs or banlists. The latter is still WIP on Mastodon's side, because of the focus on being opt-in.

@_elena
What the hell - why would this be public information? Do they WANT to encourage abuse?
@dgoldsmith