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<p dir="auto">Not really a lawer or anything</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.cyberia9.org/comment/1106776</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.cyberia9.org/comment/1106776</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[notptr@lemmy.cyberia9.org]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2026 21:50:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Thu, 22 Oct 2026 21:29:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">And aside from these promises, they also have a bridge to sell you!</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.zip/comment/7673703</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.zip/comment/7673703</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[covertoperative@piefed.zip]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2026 21:29:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Thu, 22 Oct 2026 20:47:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Pleroma.</p>
<p dir="auto">Or, if you ask some Mastodon fundamentalists, everything that isn't Mastodon or Pixelfed is inherently right-wing.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/28066409</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/28066409</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jupiterrowland@sh.itjust.works]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2026 20:47:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Thu, 22 Oct 2026 20:45:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Or copy-paste GPL code, alter it and keep it closed.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/28066377</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/28066377</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jupiterrowland@sh.itjust.works]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2026 20:45:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Thu, 22 Oct 2026 20:44:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">And he wants to market it as his own, original, scratch-made, "nothing even close to this has <em>ever</em> only even been <em>attempted</em> before" creation.</p>
<p dir="auto">And because almost nobody outside the Fediverse has ever heard about <em>anything</em> in the Fediverse, he'll succeed. To the point where people will laugh about Mastodon being a Haven Social rip-off because they've heard of Haven Social first and Mastodon later.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/28066351</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/28066351</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jupiterrowland@sh.itjust.works]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2026 20:44:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Thu, 22 Oct 2026 14:46:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Like 70% of new accounts end up just being old users moving instances making alts or just nuking their old profile for a new one.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.seralth.com/comment/125963</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.seralth.com/comment/125963</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[seralth@piefed.seralth.com]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2026 14:46:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Thu, 22 Oct 2026 14:44:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Freedom is free</p>
<p dir="auto">That means you will be abused. But your free while being abused.</p>
<p dir="auto">There is no solution that doesn't reduce the freedom.</p>
<p dir="auto">That's the problem with freedom, it's free.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.seralth.com/comment/125951</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.seralth.com/comment/125951</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[seralth@piefed.seralth.com]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2026 14:44:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Thu, 22 Oct 2026 14:43:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">There are right wingers on the fediverse????? Where?????</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://feddit.uk/comment/28241211</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://feddit.uk/comment/28241211</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[flax_vert@feddit.uk]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2026 14:43:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Thu, 22 Oct 2026 14:43:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">The fediverse doesn't protect against AI training. Quite the opposite, in fact.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://feddit.uk/comment/28241193</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://feddit.uk/comment/28241193</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[flax_vert@feddit.uk]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2026 14:43:10 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 19:38:55 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I dont think its possible and thus its a scam in my eyes.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.nz/comment/24244739</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.nz/comment/24244739</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fizz@lemmy.nz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 19:38:55 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 15:46:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">True, but authentication won't stop people from using AI. It's kinda moot really, because it takes only a single user to "infiltrate" the platform, take the art and feed it to AI. And as we've seen, corporations don't give a fuck because nobody can threaten them legally - at most they pay a paltry fine and continue their shittery.</p>
<p dir="auto">Besides, the beauty of Fediverse protocols is that you don't need to federate and distribute. One could whip up a Mastodon/Lemmy/Mbin/etc. instance without any federation, just their own little safe space, and even harden it against AI - much easier than writing your own platform, protocol, clients, frontend and backend from scratch.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://fedia.io/m/fediverse@lemmy.world/t/4480692/-/comment/16685531</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://fedia.io/m/fediverse@lemmy.world/t/4480692/-/comment/16685531</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fonix232@fedia.io]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 15:46:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 15:16:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p dir="auto">Plenty of artists are worried about Al being trained on their data. No fediverse "platform" protects from it.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I very much doubt Haven protects from AI scrubbing, either. Maybe it does <em>today</em>, but that's a constant cat-and-mouse game. I have doubts as to the efficacy of AI-poisoning efforts.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://fedia.io/m/fediverse@lemmy.world/t/4480692/-/comment/16685218</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://fedia.io/m/fediverse@lemmy.world/t/4480692/-/comment/16685218</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[chozo@fedia.io]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 15:16:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 15:11:50 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">that project is off to a bad start. only asking 10k for a platform that's going to compete with YouTube? Sure they funded 100k but... where's the cash flow. Investors are not going to jump at a poisoner. Drive space cost money, and a poisoning system is also going to require gpu rendering ontop of whatever rendering is required for consumption.</p>
<p dir="auto">Considering their primary revenue sources is intended to be user contribution via subscribers or their share of the content manager system... I really don't see how they expect to maintain sustainable</p>
<p dir="auto">I wish them the best of luck though.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/28043738</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/28043738</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pika@sh.itjust.works]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 15:11:50 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 14:47:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">They are going to use an LLM to make it</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.cyberia9.org/comment/1098876</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.cyberia9.org/comment/1098876</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[notptr@lemmy.cyberia9.org]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 14:47:51 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 13:57:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">That's a separate conversation to be had, but a network that is only meant for authenticated users can certainly offer better protections than a protocol where everything is openly published and distributed to the whole public internet.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://communick.news/comment/11123794</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://communick.news/comment/11123794</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[rglullis@communick.news]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 13:57:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 13:44:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Fediverse is great and all, but it doesn't have any AI countermeasures.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://kbin.earth/m/fediverse@lemmy.world/t/3306711/-/comment/15104971</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://kbin.earth/m/fediverse@lemmy.world/t/3306711/-/comment/15104971</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[dudeimmacgyver@kbin.earth]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 13:44:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 13:40:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">And a closet right wing problem</p>
<p dir="auto">And an anti-democratic pro annex crimea anti Palestinian genocide pro do we really need to talk about the other genocide too you’re a zionist     problem</p>
<p dir="auto">Oh and an infighting problem.</p>
<p dir="auto">It’s a fling you meet up with on the weekend but better not get to know too well.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26448385</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26448385</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[kingofras@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 13:40:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 13:10:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Yes, there's some contradiction built in. The more freedom we give to users, the more that freedom can be abused by nefarious people. I don't think there's a good technical solution to this.  At least not if we want it to be a public space.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://palaver.p3x.de/comment/5074932</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://palaver.p3x.de/comment/5074932</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hendrik@palaver.p3x.de]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 13:10:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 12:58:12 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">As if any platform would be protection from AI.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://fedia.io/m/fediverse@lemmy.world/t/4480692/-/comment/16683648</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://fedia.io/m/fediverse@lemmy.world/t/4480692/-/comment/16683648</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fonix232@fedia.io]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 12:58:12 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 12:55:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">"She got a penitentiary body."</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.zip/comment/29562012</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.zip/comment/29562012</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nastronot@lemmy.zip]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 12:55:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 12:40:15 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Fediverse… I don’t think that word means what you think it means.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.ca/comment/6756497</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.ca/comment/6756497</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pratai@piefed.ca]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 12:40:15 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 12:34:44 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">RIP Ryan McDonald</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26447327</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26447327</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[not_rick@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 12:34:44 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 12:23:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p dir="auto">I think someone didn’t do the research neded. <em>(sic)</em></p>
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<p dir="auto">You certainly didn't.</p>
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<li>Plenty of artists are worried about AI being trained on their data. No fediverse "platform" protects from it.</li>
<li>Plenty of artists <em>want</em> to have a way to monetize their work. No fediverse "platform" does it. The one that did try to do it (sub.club) shut down for insufficient interest</li>
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]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://communick.news/comment/11122929</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://communick.news/comment/11122929</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[rglullis@communick.news]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 12:23:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Someone doesn't know about the Fediverse on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 12:14:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">He did the research. This is no different than Truth Social or Gabb, where off the shelf platforms already do all these things.</p>
<p dir="auto">If this guy hosts it all himself, and doesn't federate it, then that's literally what already exists out there. He doesn't want to leave the walled garden. He wants his <em>own</em> walled garden, and for you to plant flowers there.</p>
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