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Motorola's GrapheneOS phones will launch in 2027 priced higher than Pixels
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If they’re expensive but worth it that’s fine. Graphene powered Motorola is the only device I’d ever consider switching back to Android for.
I got a google pixel 10 in a panic earlier this year when I heard of the lockdown just so I can have grapheneos on it.
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The base Pixel is 1K Euro this year. Are they really thinking of releasing a 1K+ phone? That's absolutely insane.
Pixels used to be mid range phones with great cameras or more precisely great image processors for mid range prices to overvalued mid range phones with outdated hardware.
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One thing I really dislike about the Mobile ecosystem is how much different each device is to each other.
Imagine owning a laptop and not being able to install linux without the manufacturer permission.
They really messed us up with how they created the phone architecture, so closed and restrictive.
And yet they're all the same
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This is exactly why I've waited to get a Graphene OS phone, Google can't be trusted.
i've been waiting too, but now that i know that the motorola phone will cost more than a pixel, now i think i just might give up and go with a pixel instead.
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9a for 300 bucks
And the battery life of that thing is excellent
Yes, but like half the SoC power, half the RAM wouldn't change anything about how I use the phone. It's just not needed at fucking all, waste of money. I'd rather have even more battery life lmao
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> even this one is way overkill for what I want in a phone. Why can’t there just be a low-spec one instead
Exactly this.
My solution is: dirt-cheap bargain-basement Chinese phones.
They do the job and you can get a lot for under £150.
My best buy was an Umidigi F2. Stunning device for £125. I have bought dinners that cost more than that.
*But* you'll never get an OS upgrade, they're unsupported by all the alternative OSes, and there is the everpresent risk of spyware.For me, that's worth it, but I get that it's not for everyone and so I do not unequivocally recommend them.
Well I do want GrapheneOS on it so they aren't an option. I just wonder why noone is capitalizing on a ~200 bucks GrapheneOS phone for people like me who don't need the processing power or even lower-spec models for criminals who literally only have Signal on it. I mean which criminal organization or activist group or whatever wouldn't buy a box full of sub 200 bucks GrapheneOS phones?
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CAN anything be priced higher than pixels? Fuck me and my need to eat.
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What the hell are you talking about? We have standards almost for everything now. It's just ARM ecosystem messed up as it were on purpose.
What the hell are you talking about?? You've just made up this "ARM ecosystem" thing, when it never was a thing.
ARM design processors, then license those designs to other companies to build devices. There is no "ecosystem" because they don't define the rest of the device.
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Honestly, I'd replace this fuckass Google device in a heartbeat, but I will never in my life understand why people want flagship phones. I got a b-ware 9a for 300 bucks and even this one is way overkill for what I want in a phone. Why can't there just be a low-spec one instead of ones that cost more than an entry class laptop?
It's easier to compile Rust programs and emulate Wii games on phones with higher RAM/CPU/Storage
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Edit: @plyth@feddit.org pointed out that Motorola is in fact split into two separate companies. The phone company is effectively Lenovo, so Chinese, and not related to the American surveillance technology branch.
Not sure I'd trust Lenovo/Motorola Mobility either, but that's a different story.
In June 2026, Motorola bricked its whole line of routers without any explanation, leaving their customers with broken hardware.
The main thing you're supporting is Motorola, the second biggest provider of surveillance technology in the US after Flock. Deflock lists 5% of the cameras as Motorola, but the share is increasing as backlash against Flock is growing and Flock cameras are replaced with more low key competitors.
404media has reported on how Motorola cameras are used by ice.
"Gotta support the cause" is one hell of a dangerous sentiment under capitalism.
Fitting how the US part of the company does more survellance than the Chinese part
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It's easier to compile Rust programs and emulate Wii games on phones with higher RAM/CPU/Storage
Clearly a killing feature everyone craves... ??
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Well I do want GrapheneOS on it so they aren't an option. I just wonder why noone is capitalizing on a ~200 bucks GrapheneOS phone for people like me who don't need the processing power or even lower-spec models for criminals who literally only have Signal on it. I mean which criminal organization or activist group or whatever wouldn't buy a box full of sub 200 bucks GrapheneOS phones?
First, phone makers need a strong market signal that a significant number of people do give a damn about security and privacy.
When "everyone" is on Whatsapp/Facebook/X/etc., it's hard to believe!
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It's easier to compile Rust programs and emulate Wii games on phones with higher RAM/CPU/Storage
Yeah, I'm still holding out hope for a "convergent" device I can dock and use as a PC. I've used Samsung's DeX a bit, and it's okay but I really want a Linux phone with something like a high end flagship Snapdragon SOC that gives me a normal Plasma desktop when docked. Samsung was doing Linux on DeX for like, a month or so, then discontinued it.
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Fitting how the US part of the company does more survellance than the Chinese part
Or so we hope, anyway.
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Pack it up, boys, the dream's over!
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It's easier to compile Rust programs and emulate Wii games on phones with higher RAM/CPU/Storage
cool, does it ship with a OS that lets me actually use it like a general purpose computer that it is? No, I am not fighting with android, I want a proper OS
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The ptoblem is that all the phone manufacters don't release any drivers, neither close or open
nor document their hardware at all
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cool, does it ship with a OS that lets me actually use it like a general purpose computer that it is? No, I am not fighting with android, I want a proper OS
Sigh, me too
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Yeah, I'm still holding out hope for a "convergent" device I can dock and use as a PC. I've used Samsung's DeX a bit, and it's okay but I really want a Linux phone with something like a high end flagship Snapdragon SOC that gives me a normal Plasma desktop when docked. Samsung was doing Linux on DeX for like, a month or so, then discontinued it.
The FLX1s has this feature:
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(furilabs.com)
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Honestly, I'd replace this fuckass Google device in a heartbeat, but I will never in my life understand why people want flagship phones. I got a b-ware 9a for 300 bucks and even this one is way overkill for what I want in a phone. Why can't there just be a low-spec one instead of ones that cost more than an entry class laptop?
Or, why can't flagship phones be capable, dockable laptop replacements
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