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Motorola's GrapheneOS phones will launch in 2027 priced higher than Pixels
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Imagine owning a laptop and not being able to install linux without the manufacturer permission.
Fairphone 6 ?
The exception proves the rule.
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Yes, devices now can last 24 hours with like 8 hours screen on time
This wasn't the case before, I remember I would need to top it up when I got home
My experience was that phones lasted two to three days back in the day. Before "smart"phones it would be easily a whole week.
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Motorola's GrapheneOS phones will launch in 2027 priced higher than Pixels
The private Android-based OS will expand beyond Pixels next year.
Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
I would be happy to support any competition to Google.
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Motorola's GrapheneOS phones will launch in 2027 priced higher than Pixels
The private Android-based OS will expand beyond Pixels next year.
Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
Honestly, I'd replace this fuckass Google device in a heartbeat, but I will never in my life understand why people want flagship phones. I got a b-ware 9a for 300 bucks and even this one is way overkill for what I want in a phone. Why can't there just be a low-spec one instead of ones that cost more than an entry class laptop?
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Edit: @plyth@feddit.org pointed out that Motorola is in fact split into two separate companies. The phone company is effectively Lenovo, so Chinese, and not related to the American surveillance technology branch.
Not sure I'd trust Lenovo/Motorola Mobility either, but that's a different story.
In June 2026, Motorola bricked its whole line of routers without any explanation, leaving their customers with broken hardware.
The main thing you're supporting is Motorola, the second biggest provider of surveillance technology in the US after Flock. Deflock lists 5% of the cameras as Motorola, but the share is increasing as backlash against Flock is growing and Flock cameras are replaced with more low key competitors.
404media has reported on how Motorola cameras are used by ice.
"Gotta support the cause" is one hell of a dangerous sentiment under capitalism.
Damn I guess most of us didn't know that, thank you for sharing.
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One thing I really dislike about the Mobile ecosystem is how much different each device is to each other.
Imagine owning a laptop and not being able to install linux without the manufacturer permission.
They really messed us up with how they created the phone architecture, so closed and restrictive.
It used to be the same with x86 computers, but over time a standardized interface was developed.
ARM is already getting something similar, but most companies aren't interested, precisely because they're perfectly fine with the restrictions.
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Motorola's GrapheneOS phones will launch in 2027 priced higher than Pixels
The private Android-based OS will expand beyond Pixels next year.
Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
The upcoming Moto devices won’t ship with GrapheneOS, but they will be fully supported by the project with help from Moto itself.
Doesn't unlocking the bootloader on a Motorola device void the warranty?
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The upcoming Moto devices won’t ship with GrapheneOS, but they will be fully supported by the project with help from Moto itself.
Doesn't unlocking the bootloader on a Motorola device void the warranty?
It can't in a lot of jurisdictions.
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Damn I guess most of us didn't know that, thank you for sharing.
They're keeping a low profile on their surveillance technology while successfully marketing themselves as a privacy alternative in consumer tech. Its pretty fascinating to watch.
It's also worth reading up on Aviglon, a subsidiary of Motorola specializing in surveillance technology.
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It can't in a lot of jurisdictions.
It couldn't, but it does.
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Motorola's GrapheneOS phones will launch in 2027 priced higher than Pixels
The private Android-based OS will expand beyond Pixels next year.
Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
I would have liked an affordable midrange device (like Pixel 4a) with the option of graphene os preinstalled. That would unlock it as a device recommendation for my family members: Everything still works, and the device is good enough for all expected workloads.
And with a growing user base comes mainstream relevance for graphene os.Avant-garde nerds hacking their phones with custom roms may clear the path, but the normies can bring the necessary financial volume.
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Motorola's GrapheneOS phones will launch in 2027 priced higher than Pixels
The private Android-based OS will expand beyond Pixels next year.
Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
yay!
i wish they released mid-range phones -
Edit: @plyth@feddit.org pointed out that Motorola is in fact split into two separate companies. The phone company is effectively Lenovo, so Chinese, and not related to the American surveillance technology branch.
Not sure I'd trust Lenovo/Motorola Mobility either, but that's a different story.
In June 2026, Motorola bricked its whole line of routers without any explanation, leaving their customers with broken hardware.
The main thing you're supporting is Motorola, the second biggest provider of surveillance technology in the US after Flock. Deflock lists 5% of the cameras as Motorola, but the share is increasing as backlash against Flock is growing and Flock cameras are replaced with more low key competitors.
404media has reported on how Motorola cameras are used by ice.
"Gotta support the cause" is one hell of a dangerous sentiment under capitalism.
Different company?
Motorola was split into two independent public companies: Motorola Solutions (its legal successor) and Motorola Mobility (spun off), on January 4, 2011
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Honestly, I'd replace this fuckass Google device in a heartbeat, but I will never in my life understand why people want flagship phones. I got a b-ware 9a for 300 bucks and even this one is way overkill for what I want in a phone. Why can't there just be a low-spec one instead of ones that cost more than an entry class laptop?
9a for 300 bucks
And the battery life of that thing is excellent
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Honestly, I'd replace this fuckass Google device in a heartbeat, but I will never in my life understand why people want flagship phones. I got a b-ware 9a for 300 bucks and even this one is way overkill for what I want in a phone. Why can't there just be a low-spec one instead of ones that cost more than an entry class laptop?
> even this one is way overkill for what I want in a phone. Why can’t there just be a low-spec one instead
Exactly this.
My solution is: dirt-cheap bargain-basement Chinese phones.
They do the job and you can get a lot for under £150.
My best buy was an Umidigi F2. Stunning device for £125. I have bought dinners that cost more than that.
*But* you'll never get an OS upgrade, they're unsupported by all the alternative OSes, and there is the everpresent risk of spyware.For me, that's worth it, but I get that it's not for everyone and so I do not unequivocally recommend them.
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It couldn't, but it does.
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The 4a was the last light one. When I tested the newer Pixels every of the a models was much heavier. I can't get around it, why would engineers think it's a good idea to make a successor heavier and not lighter?
Bigger screens for doomscrolling needs bigger batteries. But if you don't do that.. My Pixel 3a used to lady 3-4 days easily when it was new and running GOS.
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Show up to a repair center with a phone running a custom ROM and try to have the people working there give a single damn about what EU law says about bootloader unlocking. I'm talking from experience, because I had to.
Anyway, I'm not even sure that Motorola could sell a smartphone with Graphene OS as its stock firmware, because Google would probably get pissed off about it.
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e-ink has terrible refresh rates
Fun fact: it seems that it's not a limitation of the type of the display itself but a limitation from either the controller or the firmware of the display, someone on youtube managed to make an e-ink display to run at 60hHz
https://youtu.be/nHbA2-_qzH4It doesn't look as good as an LED or OLED screen of course but it's good enough
I've actually seen that video before, and the main limitation is still the pixel transition time. It's something like 200ms, so any sort of motion will have heavy ghosting. It's definitely a huge improvement over most controllers though.
If all you do is read/look at static content, e-ink is great, and that's why it's used on all the e-readers. I wouldn't want to be taking a video call on one though.
Tandem oled screens are also starting to become more of a thing, and that improves the usability in direct sun. But I don't have any problem using my phone outside as it is. I'd rather just have a bigger battery than a worse looking screen for what I do.
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I've actually seen that video before, and the main limitation is still the pixel transition time. It's something like 200ms, so any sort of motion will have heavy ghosting. It's definitely a huge improvement over most controllers though.
If all you do is read/look at static content, e-ink is great, and that's why it's used on all the e-readers. I wouldn't want to be taking a video call on one though.
Tandem oled screens are also starting to become more of a thing, and that improves the usability in direct sun. But I don't have any problem using my phone outside as it is. I'd rather just have a bigger battery than a worse looking screen for what I do.
Yeah, in the end it's all about what you do, tbh i wouldn't use an e-ink for my main phone... if only there was a way to swap screens in the same way you could swap batteries in old phones 🥹
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