<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Almost at 200k!]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">cross-posted from: <a href="https://lemmy.world/post/53263015" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://lemmy.world/post/53263015</a></p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/topic/24494b7e-7d4c-46ef-b1b9-dd9144f56356/almost-at-200k</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 18:48:11 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://citiverse.it/topic/24494b7e-7d4c-46ef-b1b9-dd9144f56356.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2026 15:25:58 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Fri, 23 Oct 2026 13:15:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I think there should be instances that block ML. But personally I prefer using the piefed instance block feature.</p>
<p dir="auto">It’s weird that there’s no instance that has a default block of the triad with good uptime. lemmy.cafe worked great back when I had an account there maybe 1.5-2 years ago. Didn’t know it’s had major issues since.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.zip/comment/7682053</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.zip/comment/7682053</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fundmecfs@piefed.zip]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2026 13:15:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Thu, 22 Oct 2026 19:57:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">PieFed.zip does not add one of its default user-level instance blocks for the triad for new users does it? I thought it did for two of them but not <a href="http://Lemmy.ml" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">Lemmy.ml</a>. No major instance does afaict.</p>
<p dir="auto">Lemmy.cafe is a tiny instance with only tens of users and had enormous technical problems a year or so ago that lasted for months. So I've never seen people recommend it since then.</p>
<p dir="auto">PieFed.zip is about the best instance to recommend for general purposes - Lemmy.zip and programming.dev and discuss.online etc. are also quite nice. But no major ones block ML.</p>
<p dir="auto">Have you thought about petitioning them to do so? I'm not pushing you to, just curious what your thoughts are there.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://discuss.online/comment/25303298</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://discuss.online/comment/25303298</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[openstars@discuss.online]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2026 19:57:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Thu, 22 Oct 2026 11:40:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Interesting thanks, my 45-35k is basically the same shorthand in my head might have been a bit optimistic.</p>
<p dir="auto">Obviously people have been saying this for ages, but I think it’s worth recommending instances that don’t federate with the triad. Personally I prefer to make my own federation choices hence being on an instance that federates with basically everyone. But I remember my first lemmy account being on ML and it being an absolute horror as a new user. I wish someone had sent me to lemmy.cafe or something at first haha.</p>
<p dir="auto">And Lemmy might have caught a bad name, so perhaps I guess we might have better success recommending piefed.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.zip/comment/7665932</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.zip/comment/7665932</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fundmecfs@piefed.zip]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2026 11:40:42 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Thu, 22 Oct 2026 04:37:09 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p dir="auto">We’ve been hovering around 40k MAU in the threadi for 2 good years now.</p>
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<p dir="auto">We did have 40-45K for a long time yes, but  it's been falling recently, and just prior to the Fediverse Observer dying it reported that we finally dipped below 30K. We've been declining for a very long time - from 65K to 45K, holding steady at 40-45K, now at &lt;30K and falling. Even if you include the 6-7K PieFed, that's ~35K which is very significantly (~10-25%) below the 40-45K numbers.</p>
<p dir="auto">And if you search Reddit for what people are saying about us here, it's extremely clear why that is. e.g.:</p>
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<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/fossdroid/comments/1uiywal/should_we_switch_to_lemmy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://www.reddit.com/r/fossdroid/comments/1uiywal/should_we_switch_to_lemmy/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/MorpheApp/comments/1wdbscs/we_should_switch_to_something_else/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://www.reddit.com/r/MorpheApp/comments/1wdbscs/we_should_switch_to_something_else/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/oldreddit/comments/1vvylak/thoughts_on_lemmy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://www.reddit.com/r/oldreddit/comments/1vvylak/thoughts_on_lemmy/</a></li>
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<p dir="auto">We here, who have the early adopter mindset, are willing to put in the time and effort to learn how and what to block. But e.g. the most popular 3rd-party app Voyager does not - by default - show the instance name of each user account, so a new joiner won’t be able to easily distinguish when e.g. someone from the tankie triad is trolling them vs. someone attempting to converse in good faith. Wish and hope as we might - without putting in any actual efforts to change anything mind you - we simply cannot get away from the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance</a> principle.</p>
<p dir="auto">We are a tankie / troll bar, and the vast majority of mainstream non-technical normal folks tell other people that they very much do not enjoy visiting here as a result.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I tried switching to Lemmy a long time ago, but that place is toxic and full of weird people.</p>
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<p dir="auto">There are big pockets of radical tankie communities on Lemmy that like trolling and being toxic</p>
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<p dir="auto">There are a lot more reasons than this but having spent the last 3 years on the fediverse alternatives, and just seen the shit that happens over there, I feel very confident in saying it will not ever serve as a serious Reddit alternative. It will serve as something, but not Reddit</p>
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<p dir="auto">Lemmy is shit. So is reddit but Lemmy is shittier</p>
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<p dir="auto">Any conversation about fleeing Reddit enshittification is DOA when Lemmy is mentioned - not because people have not heard of us, nor bc it is too complicated to make an account, but bc many of them have already been here, reportedly remaining for several years, and finally went back, giving up any hope that things would ever improve here.</p>
<p dir="auto">Our reputation precedes us.</p>
<p dir="auto"><img src="https://discuss.online/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0dQmOiZ.gif" alt="img" class="img-markdown  img-fluid" /></p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://discuss.online/comment/25292368</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://discuss.online/comment/25292368</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[openstars@discuss.online]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2026 04:37:09 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 14:11:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Oh yeah the vast majority has left, but that’s always the case, even sites like reddit have an order of magnitude or two more accounts than active users.</p>
<p dir="auto">But people are acting like MAU has significantly declined over the past two years which it hasn’t really.</p>
<p dir="auto">We’ve been hovering around 40k MAU in the threadi for 2 good years now.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.zip/comment/7651683</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.zip/comment/7651683</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fundmecfs@piefed.zip]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 14:11:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 11:43:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">The vast majority have simply left. Last I checked, Lemmy has 29K MAUs, while PieFed iirc had something like 7K. The difference between that vs. 200K is an order of magnitude.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://discuss.online/comment/25278199</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://discuss.online/comment/25278199</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[openstars@discuss.online]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 11:43:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 03:58:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Why do they have to be top 20? There are many instances that defederate from that shithole. It’s just that the top 20 are too chickenshit to tell the chodes in that dump to go fuck themselves. And now, their lack of spine is causing propaganda to flood all over your beloved top 20.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.ca/comment/6752693</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.ca/comment/6752693</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pratai@piefed.ca]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 03:58:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 03:55:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Name just one. I've looked, hard, and I cannot find a single one. To clarify I'm talking like a top 20 instances thing here, or even top 50.</p>
<p dir="auto">Maybe there's a language barrier here, but I cannot seem to understand the precise details of what you are saying, which obscures my reception of your overall point.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://discuss.online/comment/25273904</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://discuss.online/comment/25273904</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[openstars@discuss.online]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 03:55:24 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 03:29:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">There are many.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.ca/comment/6752477</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.ca/comment/6752477</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pratai@piefed.ca]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 03:29:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Wed, 21 Oct 2026 03:05:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Okay, so what major instance, like with a stable history and multiple people on the admin team, actually defederates from <a href="http://Lemmy.ml" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">Lemmy.ml</a>?</p>
<p dir="auto">I'm not a tankie arguing with you.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://discuss.online/comment/25273415</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://discuss.online/comment/25273415</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[openstars@discuss.online]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 03:05:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Tue, 20 Oct 2026 19:12:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">By blocking, I meant defederating.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.ca/comment/6747500</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.ca/comment/6747500</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pratai@piefed.ca]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 19:12:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Tue, 20 Oct 2026 17:00:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">You said:</p>
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<p dir="auto">people are leaving for instances that don’t openly support .ml and that have them blocked.</p>
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<p dir="auto">What instance actually blocks ML? Even if not as an instance defederation and rather as a user-level instance block applied by default (which PieFed offers the capability to do). I am aware of no major instances that do so at this time, but if one existed then I would love to know that!?</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://discuss.online/comment/25264435</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://discuss.online/comment/25264435</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[openstars@discuss.online]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 17:00:10 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Mon, 19 Oct 2026 20:53:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">If went past 16, so I had to do my part and downvote</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26418767</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26418767</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bazoogle@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 20:53:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Mon, 19 Oct 2026 18:31:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I think it requires at least one post, comment or vote to be considered active.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/28010044</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/28010044</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ryathal@sh.itjust.works]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 18:31:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Mon, 19 Oct 2026 15:27:32 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Awesome result well done mods</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://reddthat.com/comment/29780120</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://reddthat.com/comment/29780120</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ladybutterfly@reddthat.com]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 15:27:32 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Mon, 19 Oct 2026 15:14:44 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Sorry I misread</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26413262</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26413262</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[internetcitizen2@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 15:14:44 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Mon, 19 Oct 2026 14:43:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">For Mastodon it's <a href="https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/discussions/18920" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">the number of users that have logged in within the past month</a>, so I presume Lemmy also tracks it with logins.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://sopuli.xyz/comment/26264341</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://sopuli.xyz/comment/26264341</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[zedstrian@sopuli.xyz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 14:43:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Mon, 19 Oct 2026 14:23:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I know what the acronym means but what does it represent? What qualifies as an active user?</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26412410</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26412410</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[newnewaccount@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 14:23:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Mon, 19 Oct 2026 13:09:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Unless that update comes with a promotional push and/or another major transgression by the big platforms, I wouldn’t expect a software update to change things.</p>
<p dir="auto">I’m getting ready to start one of the communities I miss from Reddit and will hopefully get some converts to join me, but I don’t have a lot of time coming up, so going will be slow.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/28848591</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/28848591</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 13:09:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Mon, 19 Oct 2026 12:19:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Or to piefed.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.zip/comment/7616497</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.zip/comment/7616497</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fundmecfs@piefed.zip]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 12:19:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Mon, 19 Oct 2026 04:01:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Monthly active users</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26406203</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26406203</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[internetcitizen2@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 04:01:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Mon, 19 Oct 2026 02:58:41 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">What counts as an MAU?</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26405652</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26405652</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[newnewaccount@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 02:58:41 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Mon, 19 Oct 2026 02:21:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I'd upvote but it's perfectly at 16 now</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26405341</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/26405341</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[trilogy3452@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 02:21:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Almost at 200k! on Mon, 19 Oct 2026 00:35:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I’m talking about people that are actually leaving and stating why. .world’s inability to grow a pair and defederate from that shithole is hurting them, not helping them. But then again, many of the communities welcome propaganda with open arms.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.ca/comment/6723405</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.ca/comment/6723405</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pratai@piefed.ca]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 00:35:25 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>