So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites?

So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites? https://www.therepository.email/wordpress-ai-team-outlines-vision-for-ai-as-a-fundamental-part-of-wordpress

I know of write.as, plume. They're too ascetic to match the brief. ClassicPress could be an option, provided the WP-ActivityPub add-on works with that.

#wordpress #ActivityPub #CMS #noAI #fediverse
cc @davidgerard

@haverholm

Write HTML. HTML is still there. You don't need anything other than HTML to get started for a link-clicky formatted website.

Heck, you could even upload .txt files and use direct urls if you felt like it.

@zygmyd @haverholm fedi-enabling plain HTML is nontrivial

@zygmyd While I agree about sticking to the basics when it comes to making a small, new website with no federating features — I'm co-admin'ing a 15 years old site with 2,500 posts, 3,300 comments, 4,500 images, and 260 podcast episodes.

And, as I put in my original post, federation capabilities preferred. I think the .txt approach comes up short for this case.

@haverholm@radikal.social how about Ghost?

@julian Could be. How far along is their fediverse implementation?

Also, do you have experience migrating large-ish sites from one to the other? Because I'm involved with one group blog that would need to have 15 years or so worth of posts and podcast series moved from an ancient WP install...

@julian @haverholm
Hubzilla is an option, too.

@morph @julian My first reaction is that Hubzilla is more slanted toward the federation part than the blog and site building focus of WP, but actually — that's not a drawback. Yeah, I'll have to give it a try.

@haverholm @julian
It's indeed usable as CMS. There's of course not that supply of themes and fancy stuff like for WP.

@morph TBF most of the WP themes are bloated frameworks anyway. @julian

@haverholm @julian
I saw some amazing sites people have built on their Hubs.

BTW ... what is the magic that this thread is located in the activitypub.space #nodebb forum? Didn't the conversation start with a common Mastodon post?

@morph Re: magic sauce — I think it's as simple as me using the ActivityPub hashtag in the original mastodon post? I can't say for certain, just a guess.

Or maybe @julian commenting pulled in the thread? Federation, guys. It's weird and wonderful.

@haverholm @julian
Indeed it is. Viva La Föderation!

@morph I hadn't even seen the forum post version until you mentioned it. Below my toot it says "[#]activitypub shared this topic about _ hours ago", so I suppose it is in fact an automated, hashtag based aggregation? @julian

@morph @julian They haven't federated my edit to the post, though. Now I will always be remembered as the guy who can't tell "to" from "too"

@haverholm@radikal.social @morph@morphnet.de heheh yes you're looking at NodeBB, a forum that speaks ActivityPub!

It pulled in your thread because you used the ActivityPub hashtag.

It didn't get your update because I don't follow you 🥲

@julian I knew vaguely of the NodeBB AP implementationer, thanks for the reminder And the follow issue was easily fixed! @morph

@julian One thing confuses me a bit. Registration for NodeBB works just locally (with Email, Github, Google etc.) and creates a new AP handle, right? Not by use of your existing one. That's just in use by following the forums' categories.
@haverholm

@morph@morphnet.de yes that's correct, you create a new local account.

Use of your existing fedi handle is not quite available yet. Requires R&D and implementation from other software, so it's a much bigger lift.

@julian I saw there exists a YunoHost package and of course now I want to run a node. I just have to figure out my ressources. They say it eats up to 1.5GB RAM. o.O
But won't that be much lower with the very few people on board which are to expect? Or will nodebb reserve the memory?