US accuses American of allegedly wiping his phone using a 'duress' password during border search | TechCrunch
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US is a dystopia
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"Entering a fascist state", means you should turn around and go back the way you came. Why do people assume it's safe here?
Ideally, sure. I don't think most people assume it's safe here, at least not anymore. I'd wager that most people, if they had the option, wouldn't come here lol it's not like only tourists are coming through the border.
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you can be compelled to unlock with biometrics, but not a password
Yah, I've been trying to get my friends to use a pw rather than biometric unlock, for that exact reason.
I'm batting like 0 for 5, lol. Biometrics are just too convenient I guess. Plus they don't think it will impact them personally. Which is prob true. I still think it's best to use the way that preserves more civil rights. I just can't convince them.
Yeah, people have their own threat model and trade-offs they're willing to make for security/convenience and it's probably a lot lower for most people than if they knew more about the landscape and gave it careful thought. It sounds like other mobile devices might reencrypt after reboot. IDK about the pw v. bio, though, but if it's like Grap.OS just convincing them to reboot their device before going through TSA checkpoints or other areas where their device might get confiscated may improve their security with minimal effort.
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Sounds like the police officer tried to gain unauthorized access to a device. And, while they were trying to crack it, they wiped all of its data.
I wonder if the police officer that did this will face criminal charges of unauthorized access and destruction of evidence.
And also there's a civil suit in there. The officer may have deleted valuable data on the victim's device, causing them harm. I wonder what the monetary value will be.
They charged people with terrorism for using Signal chat.
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Edit:Other connent said GrapheneOS
Can we get a source for this app/technique?https://grapheneos.org/features#duress
Graphene OS Team has developed quite a lot of other useful features and some of them have even been merged into upstream AOSP allowing others also the benefits. Recent example is contact scope for apps starting Android 17 but it was initially developed by GrapheneOS team long ago.
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Ideally, sure. I don't think most people assume it's safe here, at least not anymore. I'd wager that most people, if they had the option, wouldn't come here lol it's not like only tourists are coming through the border.
I'd say the consequences of not coming are easier to endure than being beaten and left to rot in a concentration camp with no due process.
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I'd say the consequences of not coming are easier to endure than being beaten and left to rot in a concentration camp with no due process.
That choice is a privilege in itself. Tell that to those who have loved ones dying in dystopian US hospitals.
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He didn't delete it. The officer did.
I wonder if he'll sue them for damages
lol that'd be a neat uno reverse card right there
you... you deleted my data?? shocked pikachu face
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US is a dystopia

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More like "sorry I couldn't remember the password. I guessed, but I have a bad memory"
This is exactly the reason the government can't force you to give your password in the US. They can't prove that you remember the password.
-That, and the 5th amendment.
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More like "sorry I couldn't remember the password. I guessed, but I have a bad memory"
This is exactly the reason the government can't force you to give your password in the US. They can't prove that you remember the password.
If you're in this situation, don't say this. You are under no obligation to explain anything, and anything you say will be used against you (and will not be used to defend you). Just shut the fuck up.
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He didn't delete it. The officer did.
I wonder if he'll sue them for damages
Just put a note in your wallet that says cell password with the distress pin. You didn't give them the pin their illegal search uncovered it.
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They have a point though. Technically from what I've read just living near an airport would give ICE the authority to search your phone and anything else you might be carrying if it's within a certain mile radius. Even if you aren't using the port of entry (airport for instance). Regardless of whether or not they have any other form of probable cause.
I don't understand how others don't understand that. Because it's a hell of a conclusion to come to.
It's 100 miles. They claim 100 miles from the boarder and now "the board" is including international airports.
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FYI if you are using GrapheneOS with the duress password, you can natively backup your phone. Its in settings.
For people that don't want to be dragging into a civil rights case, can you set up a dummy interface that looks used, but doesn't have any too important available? Like you only owned the phone for a week?
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I soooo want that feature, but less and less phones will even let you unlock your bootloader. Graphene OS doesn't get to support many phones.
Yeah, I bought my pixel specifically to run Graphene. Hope the Motorola devices come sooner that later, so one has a bit of a choice
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For people that don't want to be dragging into a civil rights case, can you set up a dummy interface that looks used, but doesn't have any too important available? Like you only owned the phone for a week?
You can setup different users on GrapheneOS and switch between them.
There is also a "private area" in the bottom of the app list where you can move sensitive apps and password protect them.
Either way, allowing a malicious actor into that profile exposes more attack surface for them to exploit.
Idk. Security is a journey, not a destination.
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If you're in this situation, don't say this. You are under no obligation to explain anything, and anything you say will be used against you (and will not be used to defend you). Just shut the fuck up.
Yeah, you're right
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that doesn't work if they clone it
Would be great if there was a feature that detects a clone and start zeroing itself. Or start flipping bits every few seconds/random intervals in a way that just seems like nand in early stages of failing (maybe even give false drive health data). Though I have zero understanding of the cloning processes, and imagine that it would quickly be something they would have their own detectors and mitigations.
But can't just stop trying to make it harder/frustrating for anyone trying to access all our digital lives. They already get around our rights with how they just go ask the companies like Microsoft to get people's Bitlocker keys (which even most people seem to not even be aware of having until Windows breaks).
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