<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain]]></title><description><![CDATA[<em>This post did not contain any content.</em>]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/topic/07aebb43-6541-4588-a10b-19b097b61502/ai-companies-are-buying-antique-books-ingesting-their-contents-to-train-models-and-then-destroying-them-at-incredible-scale-even-if-almost-no-copies-remain</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 10:23:39 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://citiverse.it/topic/07aebb43-6541-4588-a10b-19b097b61502.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 22:46:02 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Tue, 04 Aug 2026 18:26:05 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">A lawyer doesn't even need to convince anyone of anything other than getting a trial delayed long and extensively enough for the other side to give up or for a judge to just throw their hands up and toss the hot potato of a case.</p>
<p dir="auto">None of these cases are that fucking complicated. The process is.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.world/comment/6323333</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.world/comment/6323333</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[snooggums@piefed.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 18:26:05 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Sun, 02 Aug 2026 15:11:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">The one thing the masses dont have is a good fucking lawyer. Just having someone to juggle words to appeal to a judge does wonders.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://leminal.space/comment/24470880</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://leminal.space/comment/24470880</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[cosmos8188@leminal.space]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2026 15:11:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Fri, 31 Jul 2026 23:53:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Too little, too late. The billion dollar lawsuit was already handed down. The Top 0.001% authors got the last major payday they will ever get. The message to AI corpos is pretty clear: <strong>Buy the physical media, consume into AI, burn it down just to spite them!</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Is it evil? Yeah, sure. But, people who understand how power works understand that this was going to be the inevitable result after that lawsuit.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/27375375</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/27375375</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 23:53:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Fri, 31 Jul 2026 20:01:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Honestly - just uploading to <a href="http://archive.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">archive.org</a> or their spinoff of Google Books would be <em>acceptable</em>. At least the stuff out of copyright.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/27004472</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/27004472</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[unwarlikeextortion@lemmy.ml]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 20:01:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Fri, 31 Jul 2026 21:42:47 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Not only that...</p>
<p dir="auto">They use this fucking <em>incredible</em> argument:</p>
<p dir="auto">"We destroy the book because when we scan it - that's a new copy. If we destroy the oroginal - only one copy (the scan) remains"</p>
<p dir="auto">As if the model doesn't get copied over and rented out in bajillions of instances. Its product - by all AI service ToS's made free to use and copy royalty free (unlike say, every single library in this world, which universally forbid the photocopying of lent out books). Meaning - copyright infringement of the worst kind in any sane interpretation. Shame this world is insane.</p>
<p dir="auto">Such an incredible spin on the rules. Using them as the excuse to go against the core cultural, civilizational and moral imperative of archiving, while going against the spirit of the concept of what copyright was initially made to do - give authors the path to a livelihood from their work and denying it to parasites such as publishers.</p>
<p dir="auto">Copyright truly is dead. Indeed - the global copyright rules were on their last legs before AI and used only as anti-consumer protection for publishers (not authors!), but now they're a sinked ship - the mask is off. It's all plainly visible what they're here to do now.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/27004455</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/27004455</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[unwarlikeextortion@lemmy.ml]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 21:42:47 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Fri, 31 Jul 2026 19:38:27 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">In fact, Anna's Archive has a <a href="https://annas-archive.gl/llm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">special offer</a> to AI companies. Probably much cheaper and much less destructive than destroying books.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/27004166</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/27004166</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[safetyissecond@lemmy.ml]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 19:38:27 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Fri, 31 Jul 2026 16:21:29 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">It's mostly shitty books from not important authors, if some hacker feels like blowing past their Cheeto cyber security download the scanned books and send them to Anne Archive  would be amazing</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/25057998</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/25057998</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hiro8811@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 16:21:29 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Fri, 31 Jul 2026 14:54:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p dir="auto">It’s a bit interesting thinking about Fahrenheit 451 in this new twist of reality.</p>
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<p dir="auto">that combined with the AI driven panopticon we're currently self imposing on ourselves makes it clear that fahrenheit 451; animal farm; and 1984 were instruction manuals.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/26999907</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/26999907</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[eldavi@lemmy.ml]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 14:54:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Fri, 31 Jul 2026 07:40:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Or they could have pirated them. This is what copyright does to people and corporations.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/27363049</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/27363049</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 07:40:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Fri, 31 Jul 2026 06:03:15 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Agreed. But this is late stage capitalism where there is zero place for socialist values. And keeping those books available for the future is totally socialist / communist way of thinking.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/26993711</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/26993711</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[melobol@lemmy.ml]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 06:03:15 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Fri, 31 Jul 2026 05:44:20 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Right, but they could keep them in a private Library. Shoot, throw them in a tote and stick them in a closet. Deliberately destroying rare books isn't just regular profit motivated evil, it's over the top. I'd say cartoonishly evil if it didn't piss me off so bad. Seriously, are they going to drown bags of puppies next? Burn down an orphanage?</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.zip/comment/27955730</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.zip/comment/27955730</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jmill@lemmy.zip]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 05:44:20 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Fri, 31 Jul 2026 04:44:21 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I know it's evil.... But that's how money and physical ownership work. They have it and nobody else can have it...</p>
<p dir="auto">It's a bit interesting thinking about Fahrenheit 451 in this new twist of reality.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/26992936</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/26992936</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[melobol@lemmy.ml]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 04:44:21 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Fri, 31 Jul 2026 04:27:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Why can they not only do that once and share the scans with everybody?</p>
<p dir="auto">Oh right… copyright and they want to keep the advantage for themselves</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://feddit.org/comment/14233889</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://feddit.org/comment/14233889</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[b0rax@feddit.org]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 04:27:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Fri, 31 Jul 2026 01:40:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Okay, that's true. Sorry, I just expect the worst takes from people coming from piefed.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/26991072</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/26991072</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[socialistvibes01@lemmy.ml]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 01:40:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Fri, 31 Jul 2026 01:30:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Destruction of precious resources in order to create a monopoly is not good for society.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.social/comment/12326277</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.social/comment/12326277</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[tangeli@piefed.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 01:30:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Fri, 31 Jul 2026 00:56:35 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">It's best for the AI companies if there are no sources other than their AI.</p>
]]></description><link>https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.social/comment/12325989</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://citiverse.it/post/https://piefed.social/comment/12325989</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[tangeli@piefed.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 00:56:35 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to AI Companies Are Buying Antique Books, Ingesting Their Contents to Train Models, and Then Destroying Them at Incredible Scale, Even If Almost No Copies Remain on Thu, 30 Jul 2026 23:17:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Books printed before 2022 are free from AI slop which makes for uncontaminated training data.  SMH, I hate this timeline.</p>
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